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Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro (2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 memory) running OS 10.8.2.  It has two graphics components: an AMD Radeon HD 6750M and a built-in Intel HD Graphics 3000. Since I've had the computer, the screen would get a blue tint when the computer switched between them.

 

However, as of two days ago, the problem has become substantially more severe.  The computer was working fine, when all of a suddent the screen when completely blue.  I had to force restart the computer.  Since then, the screen has gone awry on numerous occassions - each time necessitating a hard reset.

 

I installed gfxCardStatus, and have discovered that the computer runs fine using the integrated card, but as soon as I switch to the discrete card - the screen goes .

 

I am just wondering what my options are (any input on any of these would be appreciated!):

 

1) Replace the logic board.  Would this necessarily fix the issue?

 

2) Is there any way to "fix" the graphics card? 

 

3) Keep using gfxCardStatus and only use the integrated graphics card.  This is definitely the easiest/cheapest option, but to have such a computer and not be able to use the graphics card seems like a real shame.

 

4) Is there any other alternative?

 


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB memory

Posted on Feb 1, 2013 4:45 PM

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  • by 14minus9,

    14minus9 14minus9 Dec 24, 2014 1:04 PM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 24, 2014 1:04 PM in response to BlazenMike24

    I'm just saying that you obviously don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about, and it is physically impossible to replace the AMD chip with another make or model. Why dont you post your misleading stuff somewhere else? You're not helping anyone posting this BS. Seriously man, you have lost all credibility.

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 1:13 PM in response to 14minus9
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    Dec 24, 2014 1:13 PM in response to 14minus9

    You could have proved me wrong right there, I'm trying to be helpful and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I'm not perfect, okay, so if you cannot chabge the chip, the best solution to this is, download gfxcard status and change it to integrated only, this will force the MacBook to only use the integrated Intel graphics, this will fix your issue for along time, the integrated, believe it or not actually runs faster than the AMD discrete card, so do you agree to this or not?

  • by 14minus9,

    14minus9 14minus9 Dec 24, 2014 1:15 PM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 24, 2014 1:15 PM in response to BlazenMike24

    this is pathetic, I'm outta here.

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 1:17 PM in response to 14minus9
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    Dec 24, 2014 1:17 PM in response to 14minus9

    SSorry, geez, bye then.

  • by 14minus9,

    14minus9 14minus9 Dec 24, 2014 1:23 PM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 24, 2014 1:23 PM in response to BlazenMike24

    You're not wrong, you're just a liar, admit it. Go stand in the corner. I should tell your uncle you're bringing bad credit to his name!

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 2:42 PM in response to 14minus9
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    Dec 24, 2014 2:42 PM in response to 14minus9

    HHow am I lying, I'm saying what I know, it's what I learned and it's what I saw in other post, why would I lie on an apple discussion, I posted to try and help not lie, okay, if I'm wrong then im wrong, im not lying, my facts could be incorrect and if it is then I'm sorry, but im not lying, all that I have said have been from other posts, if i was lying, I would not take the time to type post, I'm here to help and if I'm wrong then im sorry.

  • by kayazuki,

    kayazuki kayazuki Dec 24, 2014 3:32 PM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 24, 2014 3:32 PM in response to BlazenMike24

    Oh cr@p, again some high tension situation. Let's tell people a bit friendlier that they might be/are probably/are certainly wrong..?

    Mike, the intention is of course appreciated Some people are just really keen on correct information/facts.. That's all

     

    I don't know the details, but I can imagine that a board is specifically designed for the specific structure of a certain chip. Tailor made for that chip design.

    The right connections need to be in the right place.

    If you take an Audi A6 and you feel a BWM engine would suit you better, it's really not gonna fit out of the box. That's what's being said here.

    Unless you know a chip that factually has the identical physical layout AND functions. Only then you could park a different chip on there.

     

    Poor application of cooling paste indeed causes those chips to run bad/hot.

    Poor soldering connections also cause a wide range of misery. Check the first image on this page: http://www.ko-ki.co.jp/en/memo/memo_10.html

    That's exactly what is suspected to be happening a lot during production if the working temperature would be too low (to respect the specs of of all other components on the board concerning max temp resistance).

     

    The CPU may indeed run hotter then an Intel GPU, but maybe that is the case because it can perform better?

     

    All in all, I was told there are many different ways that "reflows" are executed by 3rd parties. As it is an extremely delicate matter to find the right temperature + dureation of reflowing, to not damage components, and to really guarantee a FULL reflow of every single tin ball, you might imagine that if there are 10 people doing reflows, there might be a chance that 1 might do  it really good, and 9 might do it almost good (with all the consequences of that).

     

    A complete soldering is the strongest. Yes, a GPU that runs hot causes mechanical stress on the joints by thermal expansion. But on the other hand, ity's known by design what the temperature should be, I doubt errors are made in that design phase.

    Application/production on the other hand leaves room to make mistakes, as described above. So if a perfect reflow is done (as shd have been done during production) then there is a real chance it'll last really long. Especially if you run tools like smcFanControl to draw out heat at a higher rate constantly.

     

    I had my Mac reflown by someone who -according to what I saw and understand mechanically (I'm a mechanical engineer)- really does do 100% sure flowing of all balls, because something specific he does. I would really like to know how many of his fixes are returned within the first year.

    D3us, can you say something about that?

     

    Finally, if a good reflow would really fail after a short time, there is always the option to have the GPU removed and cleaned (or simply renewed) and reballed with "old type balls" that contain the old stuff. Then there will definitely be no more breaking of connections...

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 4:24 PM in response to kayazuki
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    Dec 24, 2014 4:24 PM in response to kayazuki

    YYeah, sorry about the other argument I had with the other person, I could have been wrong with some of the facts, anyway, this is a little different topic, but is it possible to add a discrete card to a 15" MacBook pro 2014 2.2 ghz? It comes with only Intel iris pro graphics, but I was wondering if it was possible to add abother graphics card alongside.

  • by D3us,

    D3us D3us Dec 24, 2014 4:40 PM in response to kayazuki
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    Dec 24, 2014 4:40 PM in response to kayazuki

    The ones done last year, starting from november, are still working.

    The ones done 1st quarte of this year all still working too.

    Most used for video and photo editing, some for music and on stage.

     

    So, oldest ones about 13 months now.

    Of course alos applied a really good themral paste like it should be doen.

    Let's hope they keep running (cool).

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 5:55 PM in response to D3us
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:55 PM in response to D3us

    IIs it possible to add a NVIDIA discrete dedicated graphics card to a MacBook pro 2014 that only has Intel iris pro?

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 24, 2014 5:59 PM in response to kayazuki
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    Dec 24, 2014 5:59 PM in response to kayazuki

    I Could have been wrong before then, because everybody on other forums said that after apple resoldered the cards their machine broke down again, D3us could be better than apple, but is it possible to add a NVIDIA discrete graphics card to a MacBook pro 2014 2.2 ghz $1999 that only has Intel iris pro graphics?

  • by MoritzSn,

    MoritzSn MoritzSn Dec 25, 2014 2:06 AM in response to 14minus9
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    Dec 25, 2014 2:06 AM in response to 14minus9

    Why so aggressive?

     

    I heard it, too.

     

    What is possible (and I think should be done):

    Replacing the GPU with a newer Revision of the same one... in my place a 6740M with a 6740M Rev. A1 (?)

     

    What is not possible:

    Replacing the GPU with a higher one, that doesn't work because the GPUs RAM is soldered on the logic board...

     

    In the past sometimes problems get fixed by newer revisions...

  • by eezacque,

    eezacque eezacque Dec 25, 2014 2:33 AM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 25, 2014 2:33 AM in response to BlazenMike24

    BlazenMike24 wrote:

     

    I Could have been wrong before then, because everybody on other forums said that after apple resoldered the cards their machine broke down again, D3us could be better than apple, but is it possible to add a NVIDIA discrete graphics card to a MacBook pro 2014 2.2 ghz $1999 that only has Intel iris pro graphics?

    Apple doesn't resolder the cards: they just do a quick and cheap reflow...

  • by D3us,

    D3us D3us Dec 25, 2014 3:09 AM in response to BlazenMike24
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    Dec 25, 2014 3:09 AM in response to BlazenMike24

    BlazenMike24 wrote:

     

    I Could have been wrong before then, because everybody on other forums said that after apple resoldered the cards their machine broke down again, D3us could be better than apple, but is it possible to add a NVIDIA discrete graphics card to a MacBook pro 2014 2.2 ghz $1999 that only has Intel iris pro graphics?

    Haven't seen those pcbs yet.

    If they have the gpu area with nVidia pattern on it, technically it should be possible.

    But also depends how it is configured, uefi, smc, caps/resistor allready on it or not.

    Think it would be to much work, to mich risc to fai.

     

    Send it in, can allways give it a try if chips are available and if you want to risk it...

     

    If you want a dedicated gpu, buy one with it on allready.

    Best would be to wait till they come with 9xxM version if you can...

  • by BlazenMike24,

    BlazenMike24 BlazenMike24 Dec 25, 2014 9:29 AM in response to D3us
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    Dec 25, 2014 9:29 AM in response to D3us

    The ones with the NVIDIA are $2500, which is really expensive, the Intel iris pro graphics are really good, but I feel like with the NVIDIA, it would have the load of work then off of it, if you could do it, how much would it be?

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