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Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro (2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 memory) running OS 10.8.2.  It has two graphics components: an AMD Radeon HD 6750M and a built-in Intel HD Graphics 3000. Since I've had the computer, the screen would get a blue tint when the computer switched between them.

 

However, as of two days ago, the problem has become substantially more severe.  The computer was working fine, when all of a suddent the screen when completely blue.  I had to force restart the computer.  Since then, the screen has gone awry on numerous occassions - each time necessitating a hard reset.

 

I installed gfxCardStatus, and have discovered that the computer runs fine using the integrated card, but as soon as I switch to the discrete card - the screen goes .

 

I am just wondering what my options are (any input on any of these would be appreciated!):

 

1) Replace the logic board.  Would this necessarily fix the issue?

 

2) Is there any way to "fix" the graphics card? 

 

3) Keep using gfxCardStatus and only use the integrated graphics card.  This is definitely the easiest/cheapest option, but to have such a computer and not be able to use the graphics card seems like a real shame.

 

4) Is there any other alternative?

 


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7, 8 GB memory

Posted on Feb 1, 2013 4:45 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 6:22 AM in response to IvnOs
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:22 AM in response to IvnOs

    IvnOs wrote:

     

    Please tell me could that be just HDD problem? I really havent such ammount of money for now to replace a Logic Board, and HDD problem would make me much happier.

    I don't know but I very much doubt that it is an HDD issue.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 6:25 AM in response to below sealevel
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:25 AM in response to below sealevel

    756 pages of posts, 11,300 or so actual posts, about 4800 unique posters, many of which disagree even with each other.

     

    Compelling indeed.

  • by spudnuty,

    spudnuty spudnuty Jan 20, 2015 6:30 AM in response to abelliveau
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:30 AM in response to abelliveau

    Hi all,

    This is from the thread:

    2011 MacBook Pro Graphics Issue $40 Fix!!!

    2011 MacBook Pro Graphics Issue $40 Fix!!!

    " He said that some of boards that were made had bad thermal paste in them that over time (usually after the warrantee has run out) hardens/loses its gooeyness. "

    From macman.gg:

    " the original paste was hard and very spread out, unusual for Apple, will keep you informed"

    and to Franzdm - This is a very simple fix and something that someone in your area should be able to do. At least in Florence. (Wished I was there right now!):

    So it would appear that the base cause of this could be the thermal paste.

    Bad thermal past could cause low heat transfer to the heat sink. Bad thermal paste is not unknown in the electronics industry.

    This would cause the graphics chip to run hot causing video anomalies and eventually ball grid array failure which is catastrophic.

    So everyone with these symptoms should check out their thermal paste or have it checked out."

    A thermal paste failure would cause the paste to look like dried out toothpaste versus a nice creamy sticky icing.

    Now I'm not saying that this is the problem with everyone here but this kind of failure could certainly cause a BGA failure which at that point would be irreversible. If caught early this is indeed a simple fix!

  • by below sealevel,

    below sealevel below sealevel Jan 20, 2015 6:40 AM in response to Csound1
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:40 AM in response to Csound1

    I detect some cynicism. Even if 'only' one tenth of the posters has a similar problem on which they agree, there is still a serious problem I think. I do not understand why you disagree...

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 6:48 AM in response to below sealevel
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:48 AM in response to below sealevel

    This issue needs some truth, not another vague statistic with no apparant connection other than a page number.

     

    Read the thread, there are multiple issues here, differing issues with differing machines.

     

    This thread is a wasteland for real information.

     

    But you are trying to help, you have complained to Apple (rather than other users), you have opened a case so that Apple now have a little more real information to base a decision on. That would help.

  • by below sealevel,

    below sealevel below sealevel Jan 20, 2015 6:53 AM in response to Csound1
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:53 AM in response to Csound1

    "This issue needs some truth" I couldn't agree more. That's why I would appreciate a response from the makers themselves. Enough said imho.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 6:56 AM in response to below sealevel
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    Jan 20, 2015 6:56 AM in response to below sealevel

    Have you contacted 'the makers themselves" yourself?

  • by below sealevel,

    below sealevel below sealevel Jan 20, 2015 7:03 AM in response to Csound1
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:03 AM in response to Csound1

    I did. In vain ;-(

     

    That's part of my disappointment. I'm not really into posting on the Support Community but I was triggered into this 'action' because of Apple's reaction.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 7:29 AM in response to below sealevel
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:29 AM in response to below sealevel

    below sealevel wrote:

     

    I did. In vain ;-(

    Good, now you are left with what to do in the interim, and that I can't advise you on. Please bear in mind that any 3rd party repairs that you have made on your machine may be cause to exclude it from any settlement that may or may not be reached. And that as suit has been filed this is unlikely to happen (if it happens at all) quickly.

  • by JroenVN,

    JroenVN JroenVN Jan 20, 2015 7:37 AM in response to abelliveau
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:37 AM in response to abelliveau

    I just called to log my case.

     

    The guy on the phone knew there were a lot of machines failing but said "a lot of them haven't failed" (or haven't been reported yet ;-)).

    And that he understood and blablabla but could do anything. I suggested them giving me a discount on a new machine but 2 min later I got an email this wouldn't be done.

    So this is it, my case is 'logged', let's wait what the lawsuit brings in April. Meanwhile, use internal gfx and then a professional reflow on the AMD chip.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 7:39 AM in response to JroenVN
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:39 AM in response to JroenVN

    JroenVN wrote:

     

    I just called to log my case.

     

    The guy on the phone knew there were a lot of machines failing but said "a lot of them haven't failed" (or haven't been reported yet ;-)).

    I have one 15" 2011 MBP, it has not failed, so it has not been reported yet.

  • by Demogorgos,

    Demogorgos Demogorgos Jan 20, 2015 7:53 AM in response to Csound1
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:53 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound,

     

    I don't think there will be a settlement. What I see in the forums I am on, however, is the following:

     

    Shell out the 600 Euro/US$ for the logic board replacement. Come back 3 times within the 90 day warranty of the repair with the same issue. Get a new 2014 retina MBP. In the Spanish MBP victim FB group, people are having their MBP replaced, *IF*  they go through the hassle of shelling out the repair costs and do the (long and ghastly) follow up. But until now, each of those who did go through the "procedure" has received a new 2014 retina MBP in the end. Just saying... It seems that this is the way Crapple goes. Denial, but case by case replacements, after of course shelling out the (imho UNFAIR) logic board replacement of 600 Euros/dollar to start the "procedure" going. Had they told me "Give us 600 euros and we'll give you a 2014 retina MBP", I would have done this, because it is fair enough. But Crapple does not even acknowledge that there is the MBP flaw and I had enough of waiting for something to happen. 

     

    I already had a reball and "big maintenance" done on my late 2011 MBP, so I'm good now. I paid 230 euros total for the fix.

     

    Regards,

     

    JP

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 20, 2015 7:57 AM in response to Demogorgos
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:57 AM in response to Demogorgos

    People report varying results by going to Apple, some get new machines, some get repairs that Apple pay for, some that they have to pay themselves. Reports of pricing vary from 1000 to 300 dollars, some pay and then get a new machine. These seem to match the wild variance in the description of the problem, it's probable causes, machines affected, cures, etc.

     

    In this thread nothing dominates, there are reported to be multiple issues with multiple machines from multiple years. All of which makes the road to a possible settlement look twistier than ever.

  • by IvnOs,

    IvnOs IvnOs Jan 20, 2015 8:03 AM in response to Demogorgos
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    Jan 20, 2015 8:03 AM in response to Demogorgos

    Demogorgos wrote:

     

    I already had a reball and "big maintenance" done on my late 2011 MBP, so I'm good now. I paid 230 euros total for the fix.

     

    Normal engineers are telling that reballing is a not so good method. It'll long 1 year max.

  • by Demogorgos,

    Demogorgos Demogorgos Jan 20, 2015 8:03 AM in response to IvnOs
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    Jan 20, 2015 8:03 AM in response to IvnOs

    IVnos,

     

    You say it only lasts for a year? It was reballed with lead-containing solder tin, so it should last a little longer than that....

     

    Regards,

     

    JP

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