Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

Csound1 wrote:

 

vsingha2k wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

You are asking me to repeat what is already posted here because you can't be bothered to look.

 

really?

 

YES, cause I don't know how to google this sort of answer/info, definitively:

So please simply answer:

- do u have a 2011 mbp 15" which is adversely affected by the graphics card/heat/malfunction issue being discussed here??

 

If YES, how did you solve/repair it?

If NOT, what is your motivation in engaging in this thread

You can read my Mac list straight from my site profile, yet you can't even be bothered to make one click.

 

It is clear that you actually are not interested in even the lightest of tasks, and as they are unimportant to you, so they are to me.

 

Carry on

I did, but it doesn't tell us if your machine was affected and how did you solve it?

So answer completely

vsingha2k wrote:

 

So answer completely

Giving orders?

no, I have been asking simply, for awhile now. but you are avoiding - was ur 15" mbp 2011 affected by the issues being discussed here??

Csound1 wrote:

 

vsingha2k wrote:

 

So answer completely

Giving orders?

 

 

no, I have been asking simply, for awhile now. but you are avoiding. So let me try again:

I request the courtesy of your response - was ur 15" mbp 2011 affected by the issues being discussed here??

a single word response - "Yes" or "No" will do

End of your 2nd paragraph - "tWe know the supervisor by the name of Peter": Peter as in "The Peter Principle, why things always go wrong" - ? Book published by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull in 1969. In it: “in a Hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to the level of his incompetence.”

Takes us back a bit, still so true today!

Nickiwi wrote:

 

End of your 2nd paragraph - "tWe know the supervisor by the name of Peter": Peter as in "The Peter Principle, why things always go wrong" - ? Book published by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull in 1969. In it: “in a Hierarchy, every employee tends to rise to the level of his incompetence.”

Takes us back a bit, still so true today!

Learn from our history or be doomed to repeat it.

I am still wondering what the repair does, do they change the MB with another one carrying the same faulty GPU or what else do they do?

Giovanni Aprea2 wrote:

 

I am still wondering what the repair does, do they change the MB with another one carrying the same faulty GPU or what else do they do?

Simple answer: nobody knows for sure. Somebody here recently reported that when asked, the Apple technician implied that a new, better board was installed. But again, nobody really knows. When you go and repair your MBP, you should ask the Apple guys yourself.

Giovanni Aprea2 wrote:

 

I am still wondering what the repair does, do they change the MB with another one carrying the same faulty GPU or what else do they do?

As recently as a days before Apple announced their repair plan, people were reporting having participated in several repair cycles.  As a result of these reoccurring repairs a pattern of what Apple would do was emerging, the pattern seem to be that after the 4th motherboard replacement Apple replaced the whole machine with current production.  Its doubtful that Apple was refreshing their inventory of replacement motherboards and turning those repairs made that repeatedly failed at the same time.

I think its safe to say Apple has not reworked their inventory of motherboards to correct the fault.  If that is true, based on Apple's first efforts to hide the problem, the firmware update fix, this program could easily be a similar deception because Apple can site their repair efforts and then calculated that most replacement motherboard failures will occur outside the 90 day window.

In a former life time I designed electronic devices for submarines.  Submarines apparently are subjected to vibrations and shock.  Its amazing what happens to electronic devices when put on a shake table or attached to platform and then have huge pendulum hammer strike the platform.  Any marginal connection is exposed in a short time.

I think we shall know a bit more about the state of Apple's repair program results about 60 days after the customer gets their machine back.

jimoase wrote:

 

I think we shall know a bit more about the state of Apple's repair program results about 60 days after the customer gets their machine back.

Absolutely, that's why I'm going to stress test my machine as soon as I get it back from the new repair program. And I suggest everyone here to do the same.

A very brief history my laptop macpro 2011 15" died in October went to Apple Care and had to show them the problem, in my case all I had to do was the famous PRAM to get the blue screen whereas their test should nothing wrong to be brief had to pay $640 including taxes for a board replacement. Unfortunately I had no idea about the problem until I started reading this discussion group. Here is my situation I'm out of guarantee by 1 month and now starting to see with the help of Mac Fan Control that when I simply open Aperture with Nik the temperature hits 86 degree centigrade, for the first 3 months the same programs went around 43 to 46 degrees. Also when I view Vimeo or YouTube now it starts to get really sluggish and that's what happened before the repair. I don't know if these stress tests will only show problems over a period of time i.e. not immediately after a repair? I am really getting tired of this psychologically speaking just as everyone else.   

Could someone explain how to do a stress test on a machine? I will have mine on Friday so I would like to report back here my experience with the stress test results as well!

Thanks

vsingha2k wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

vsingha2k wrote:

 

So answer completely

Giving orders?

 

 

no, I have been asking simply, for awhile now. but you are avoiding. So let me try again:

I request the courtesy of your response - was ur 15" mbp 2011 affected by the issues being discussed here??

a single word response - "Yes" or "No" will do

Obviously we're not going to become smarter with Csound1's consistency to NOT return any feedback, bot or not.

Is anyone out there who can actually give us some valuable input, preferably from first hand experience!? The challenge is to bring 2 different mbp (with a similar configuration) together - one containing a 'fixed' main board, the other still in original state - and do a head-to-head comparison. It sounds easier than it is, I'm afraid! I'm pretty sure Apple is crossing fingers and counting on it such a scenario would not occur.

@Speida, e.g. page 816:

D3us wrote:

 

SkyHawk-YQB wrote:

Anyone knows good and reliable GPU benchmark for Mac to do this?

 

http://www.geeks3d.com/gputest/

 

http://unigine.com/products/heaven/

 

http://www.mersenne.org/download/_

 

If you run a CPU test, make sure to set it up 4 times each one running on a it's own core.

Might be a good test too as the dooling system cools both CPU and GPU over the same heat pipes.

Heat flows from GPU  to CPU and vice versa.

Add to that the worst ever seen appliaction of thermal paste...

It all accumulates.

Hope the new systems will have separate heat pipes for both CPU and GPU heat sinks.

jimoase wrote:

 

In a former life time I designed electronic devices for submarines.  Submarines apparently are subjected to vibrations and shock.  Its amazing what happens to electronic devices when put on a shake table or attached to platform and then have huge pendulum hammer strike the platform.  Any marginal connection is exposed in a short time.

Do you know empfasis?