Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card
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Jan 4, 2014 9:39 PMby guaranna,you could start your computer in SAFE MODE; hold SHIFT while starting up (when you hear the startup sound)
or you could try TARGET DRIVE; hook your macbook to another apple computer with firewire cable and start your faulty computer holding 'T'. It will behave just like an external hard drive.
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Jan 4, 2014 9:40 PMby guaranna,as for single user, the helpful infos are here though posts with links tend to be deleted by moderators:
http://www.asyncro.com/2013/12/12/macbook-pro-discreate-graphics-card-issue-fix/
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Jan 5, 2014 2:12 AMby hbish,I have also recently started experiencing glitched GPU when MBP (early 2011 with 6490M) starts to get really warm.
It's a little absurd that Apple offered a replacement program for the 2011 iMac (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5167) but not the MBP when it is exhibiting the same issue.
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Jan 5, 2014 2:19 AMby Victor Ga,Hi,
I have the exact same issue on a MBP late 2011 with the AMD card. I got my Logic Board replaced 2 days ago (they took it under warranty even if it was not anymore under so I would say just insist a lot when you are at the Apple Store ).
However and that's a big however just 2 days after getting my MBP back with the new Logic Board (which is exactly the same as the one I had before). It started failing again. I will go to the Apple Store on monday as I have now 90 days warranty on the repairs. Fortunatly I had time to backup the harddrive...
I will keep you up to date but clearly if they replace the logic board to put back the same it will not help a lot...
Best,
Victor
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Jan 5, 2014 4:28 AMby jernic,Maybe Apple doesn't have a proper fix for this problem. If the only solutions are to exchange the logic-board or re-ball the GPU, then this isn't a fix, because the underlying design problem will still be there. And I guess that Apple does not want to start re-designing the thing, so what can they do? No wonder they're refusing to admit that there's an inherent design fault.
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Jan 5, 2014 7:02 AMby Mr. EMan,What do you propose? This version of the MacBook Pro is no longer in production, and has since been redesigned. Hard to redesign something that no longer exists. Replacing failed components is the only thing left to do once the engineering has been done.
I've mentioned this in the past, but every one says that fault is Apples, but I blame AMD. It's their part that failing, not Apple's.
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Jan 5, 2014 8:10 AMby D3us,Mr. EMan wrote:
What do you propose? This version of the MacBook Pro is no longer in production, and has since been redesigned. Hard to redesign something that no longer exists. Replacing failed components is the only thing left to do once the engineering has been done.
I've mentioned this in the past, but every one says that fault is Apples, but I blame AMD. It's their part that failing, not Apple's.
Might be the production process too.
As I wrote before:
It's not about the solder getting 150c to melt.
If it's not an intern GPU fault, it's probably bad soldering of the BGA.
Not all balls got fully liquidus or long enough TAL, not giving a 100% soldered connection.
It makes contact but is not really soldered, doesn't havea real intermetallic bond.
More "glued" instead of soldered.
It's the mechanical stress caused by heating/cooling cycles, making it expand and contract.
Breaking the "glued" connection, like the head-in-pillow photo posted.
Another factor of course is cooling. Everything that has to be smaller get's hotter.
More products, like airbooks, might start failing too.
No matter what the reason is, In the end Apple sold it to you.
Apple is responsible to give a solution, no matter if it was a production, design or a GPU fault.
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Jan 5, 2014 9:04 AMby Mr. EMan,D3us wrote:
Might be the production process too.
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Yup, I agree. Apple had issues with the PowerMac G5 when they went to lead-free solder, for example.
The question that's being asked is what level of responsibility a manufacturer has after selling a product. Is two years reasonable for a laptop? I dunno.
When something breaks on my car after the warranty period, it *****. If it's safety related, then it could be a recall. If not, it just depends on the manufacturer how they want to handle it.
It's the same with Apple. I'd like my money back for my repair. If this drives people away from Apple, that's the choice Apple is making. Don't buy another Apple product, then.
Apple doesn't have to do anything, and we don't have to buy Apple products. Free market and all that.
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Jan 5, 2014 9:10 AMby smarmo,I too am now added to the long list of MBP owners that now no longer own what they thought was a fantastic machine, they now own an oversized expensive paperweight unless I spend £415 on a new logic board!
How is this possible that a product from early 2011 (unfortunately bought in Australia, therefore cant take advantage of the EU policty on repairs) can have such a catastrophic failure when we spend so much money on the products?
Really p*ssed off with Apple over this!
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Jan 5, 2014 9:19 AMby MacforSound,People, why not look and make a list of the lawyers that took action against Apple in the past and write them a nice letter explaining the situation and ask if they could do something?
I'm not English or American and I belive that my English isn't good enough for it but I propose the ideia.
