Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

Ok, so now I'm tacky

Your allegation that Apple pay people to place favourable posts on Reddit is what?

You choose the word if you don't like 'tacky'

No, thank you, sound of spam1!

I'm awaiting a call from someone from Cupertino as we speak.  Csound1's opinions are fine, but the insults and insulting tone which is causing more hostility and stress within this thread is not fine.  Csound1 has inspired me to take off some time from work today and I will contact officials at Apple until someone has a chat with Csound1 about adjusting his bad attitude.

He's not helping here with the unprofessional insults and general snide attitude towards customers that are already stressed out about this MacBook Pro issue enough as it is.  He might as well be a mole from Microsoft with all the damage he's doing to the Apple brand by being a Level 8 poster within this community and doing his best to inflame already agitated people here.

For the good of the Apple customers and for the good of Apple, I'm putting a stop to this.

One of the measures by which you can tell how helpful a particular poster has been is by the points that posters with problems have awarded them for helping to solve, or solving their problems.

I note that you have yet to provide any.

Excuse me, but don't try to close this thread because you do not like someone's behaviour. This thread is not about attitude or how I feel about you, it's about the issue we are having with the AMD graphic card of our Macbook Pros.

Thank you.

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HUhaushauhs would be nice kick that guy ... I agree ... Csound1 isn't helping and by the way is a guy with nothing else to do cause spend all day long here! Get a job man!

I haven't been posting on here for months and thought I would give a quick update to the status of the six MBP 2011's I recommended to get reballed with lead solder at bga-repairs.  All are still working and that's at a far, far better failure rate than the depot repairs.

The fact that when you lead solder it's typically 40C minimum lower than lead free which seems to cause less damage to the PCB. The Apple engineers I know say the higher temps of using lead free crack the boards surface hence why it fails again and they end up totally broken.

Using a decent and far less amount of thermal paste such as AS-5 or AS Ceramique 2, polishing the heatpipe contact plates which attach to the CPU/GPU to improve thermal dissipation.

Running a fan control app such as macsfantrol to trigger the fans to spin up much sooner than the stock settings in Apples EFI bios.

Apple seem to be falling on deaf ears to help us - so if yours fails before my 2011 does I suggest you get it reballed with a brand new AMD GPU, ideally with lead solder to save the PCB surface.  I have gone through the reasons on this thread many, many times and to avoid being a parrot I suggest you search my posts, you will find an awful lot of information there to help you all.  For here in the UK a new lead soldered GPU is actually less than the US depot $310 repair!

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I note that you have yet to provide any.

Wow, that's demeaning towards me.  It appears you also lack an understanding of basic humility along with your ignorance of common respectfulness.

So, now, according to you:

1) I'm tacky.  (Which is a personal insult you've doubled-down upon.)

2) I'm not worthy of common respect. (Which is another personal insult you've doubled-down upon.)

3) My opinions as a consumer or otherwise lacks worth due to a lack of "points".

Any other insults to add while you're at it?

I see nothing in the TOS that says any amount of points gives anyone free range to cast repeated personal insults in order to needle other posters here.  As a matter of fact, it's against the TOS you agreed upon when you signed up here.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that you are attempting to anger myself and others with your repeated personal insults, demeaning passive-aggressiveness, and general snide tone and demeanor.

To the person who just edited my post about sending the invoice for what I deem the CORRECT repair for us MBP users to a certain high up person at apple to be reimbursed - that was within the TOC of this site.  If not perhaps you may want to edit out the other dozen and more occasions I've said the same on this thread!  I'm here to help not to flame - 25 years of fixing Apple kit means I know my onions so don't tar me with the same brush lol.

Excuse me, but don't try to close this thread because you do not like someone's behaviour.

We have a misunderstanding.  Nowhere have I said I'm trying to close this thread.  I'm bringing someone's personal insults to the attention of Apple corporate.  If it was a matter of opinion, I wouldn't have a problem with this person's behavior.  But personal insults are not a matter of opinion and are over the line.  It's all water under the bridge by this point anyway, I've already contacted the necessary people at Apple about this person and things are in motion as we speak.  This has nothing to do with closing the thread.

Sent mine out for reballing yesterday although I am aware PS3specialist is using lead free... (workmanship looks stellar though so hopefully, it can bring a couple more years of life until another reballing is needed in the future).

I personally would rather the solder be lead based, based on past experience with arcade boards/pcbs and arcade sticks using lead solders vs. lead free. Guys that solder on these boards, replacing capacitors, faulty components, or changing out batteries, know that lead solder is not as problematic.

I no longer solder anything due to health problems, but:

I have observed that lead solder connections had a better success ratio for me when building sticks (and)

electronics of the past (w/ lead based solders), never failed like the electronics of recent days using lead free (based on experience w/ arcade boards, game systems).

But I do think we, as a society need to use lead free and improve the solder technologies.

supergrafx wrote:

 

Sent mine out for reballing yesterday although I am aware PS3specialist is using lead free... (workmanship looks stellar though so hopefully, it can bring a couple more years of life until another reballing is needed in the future).

 

I personally would rather the solder be lead based, based on past experience with arcade boards/pcbs and arcade sticks using lead solders vs. lead free. Guys that solder on these boards, replacing capacitors, faulty components, or changing out batteries, know that lead solder is not as problematic.

 

I no longer solder anything due to health problems, but:

 

I have observed that lead solder connections had a better success ratio for me when building sticks (and)

electronics of the past (w/ lead based solders), never failed like the electronics of recent days using lead free (based on experience w/ arcade boards, game systems).

 

 

 

But I do think we, as a society need to use lead free and improve the solder technologies.

Using lead free with a good technician like ps3specialist is the next best thing and both options are far, far better than what Apple are currently offering, the quality of the depot boards condition compounded by the plain stupid engineering guidelines to just throw tons of Shinetsu paste on the chips and not polish properly and furthermore check the heatpipe plates are even along with polishing the surface which under a magnifier isn't even and is pitted.  Thermodynamics arent that difficult and our 2011 models out of all the generations of chipsets in this chassis need the thermal system properly optimised cos they have the hottest chip combos of all!

I'm happy with lead free solutions but for reballing chips onto 2/3 year old logic boards using leaded is something I always insist on but that's my personal preference through donkeys years of experience of fixing Mac's and PC's.

>Your allegation that Apple pay people to place favourable posts on Reddit

Please don't misrepresent what I said.  I said that I don't know if that's the case, but the behavior made me feel suspicious (and it still does, in my opinion).  When people act like public relations for a company, I get suspicious that they may be public relations for said company.  Nowhere have I alleged that I know for certain that there are public relations people from Apple at Reddit.  And nowhere is it appropriate for you to continue to insult and needle me within your other posts because you don't like my opinions.

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To the person who just edited my post

Your post was edited by the site moderators.

"When people act like public relations for a company, I get suspicious that they may be public relations for said company"

Whereas when people act adversarially to a company I get suspicious that they may be in the pay of said company's competitors.