Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

Gapulus wrote:

 

I also decided that IF i buy another macbook, il always be sure to sell it before applecare runs out. Its seems as if they're designed to last 3 years and then they all self destruct

Honestly, would you ever buy a 3-year old MacBook Pro, which is economically dead?

Csound1 wrote:

 

eezacque wrote:

 

Well-designed hardware dissipates heat through proper ventilation, and shuts itself down if this no longer works, unlike MacBook Pros which slowly melt down.

 

Really?

 

You can link to something that supports that I assume, it couldn't possibly be just one more opinion, could it?

Read a book on electronics, and learn how high temperatures affect electronic components' longevity.

Open a MacBook Pro, and study its airflow.

Csound1 wrote:

 

I have 2010 as well as an 2009 and a 2011, they're all past the sell by date by now, how unreliable, they don't even fail when they are supposed to

You mean there is no problem, because it is not your problem?

This might not be the right thread for you to hang out...

So the answer is no, you can't support that assertion.

Why am I not surprised. that this is just more noise.

No eezacque i will never again have a macbook pro over 3 years old as ive seen too many of them fail just after the 3 year mark. Even if you read through this forum, 2008s often died in 2011, 2009s in 2012, Next year we'll probably see an mbp 2012 forum just like this.

However, i do see 2011 mbps selling online all day long so i know they can easily be sold on after 3 years, which will now be my plan as i will only ever feel safe with a mbp WITH APPLE CARE now

eezacque wrote:

 

Csound1 wrote:

 

I have 2010 as well as an 2009 and a 2011, they're all past the sell by date by now, how unreliable, they don't even fail when they are supposed to

 

You mean there is no problem, because it is not your problem?

This might not be the right thread for you to hang out...

Can you really not understand English? here, let me keep it simple for you.

None of my Macs have this problem, the vast majority of Macs do not have this problem. In spite of some ridiculous claims here Mac's don't "self destruct" after 3 years, this thread is largely nonsense. The few who try to provide real information that may be helpful in discerning a pattern are lost amongst all this silly noise.

And when I need your advice on which threads to post in I will ask.

Have a nice day.

Csound1 with all due respect, if you really want to be helpful, it would be a lot more productive if you werent so rude and sarcastic in your comments. There are obviously a lot of cheesed of apple customers in this discussion who have spent a lot of money, excpecting quality, longevity and good customer service as they have paid a premium price for a premium product. The least we can do is respect eachother's opinions and input whether we agree or disagree.

I do agree that MBPros won't self destruct but I was indeed replying to your assumption that since your macs aren't affected, the problem doesn't have a relevant scale, something you pointed out more clearly a minute ago; something which BTW you obviously can't prove true unless you have some large scale inside stats to show.

As many honest Apple Genius told me, there are indeed a lot 2011 models that are failing these months. My opinion is, it's not a general design flaw but perhaps a concentration of heat intensive components in the 2011 model that are pushing the thermal balance of the machine beyond its limits.

You should also understand people angered by the fact that Apple ain't listening and not call them noise, especially since your assertions don't seem more credible or well founded than the other's.

Csound1 wrote:

 

And when I need your advice on which threads to post in I will ask.

do you see the contradiction? you are very pejorative and insulting towards people that did NOT ask for your judgement.

and this thread is not there for judging the other's opinions. therefore i would really appreciate if you could abstain…

you can post YOUR opinion but not determine if someone others opinion is right or wrong

(maybe you didn't learn the difference between an opinion and a judgement?)

sorry if i am also now not just "posting an opinion" but i felt the need to explain you some basic rules how to not get in repeated conflicts with people

(i noticed that you are very much into "rules" earlier)

good for you if YOUR 2011 macbook pro is still working fine (do you use it for professional purpose??)

i cannot understand why you have to offend all people who are not singing apple's praise, after their macbook pro 2011 failed, and failed again and again, and apple doesn't really help to solve the problem - instead just pretends to be blind.

my macbook pro stopped working because of gpu failure 2,5 years after purchase, since then i had 3 logicboard replacements because of the same issue.

this is for me not a random misfortune but a proof that there is something wrong with these logicboards.

and of course i am angry that apple only offers motherboard replacements which seems not to be an effective "repair".

also i think it should not be OUR (meaning me and all the others who really HAVE this problem) problem to find out what exactly is the problem but apple is shifting the responsibility on to us customers (because they just do nothing and don't admit that there is a problem)

let it be a hint for you how many people "like" your comments and how many people "like" the answers of people who try to remind you to be at least decent

have a nice day

alessiodd wrote:

 

I do agree that MBPros won't self destruct but I was indeed replying to your assumption that since your macs aren't affected, the problem doesn't have a relevant scale,

Stop putting words in my mouth.

I have said that the scale of the problem is not known, and that accurate information gathering is not possible in this thread. If you disagree please say so.

Then if you could quote where I said that the problem was not of a relevant scale.

Silbe wrote:

 

 

good for you if YOUR 2011 macbook pro is still working fine (do you use it for professional purpose??)

So, you didn't actually read the thread prior to posting.

Typical.

Csound1 wrote:

So, you didn't actually read the thread prior to posting.

 

Typical.

typical.

more i will not write any more because it is useless - and will only extend this whole thing…

"None of my Macs have this problem, the vast majority of Macs do not have this problem. In spite of some ridiculous claims here Mac's don't "self destruct" after 3 years, this thread is largely nonsense."

To me these sound like assertions. Quite gratuitous too.

It's not me putting words in your mouth. Maybe it's your keyboard that types stuff you don't agree with.

alessiodd wrote:

 

"None of my Macs have this problem, the vast majority of Macs do not have this problem. In spite of some ridiculous claims here Mac's don't "self destruct" after 3 years, this thread is largely nonsense."

 

To me these sound like assertions. Quite gratuitous too.

Of course they do, they are assertions, 2 of mine, (the majority of Macs do not have this issue, and none of my Macs have this issue)

The claim that Macs self destruct after 3 years was by another poster.