Q: 2011 MacBook Pro and Discrete Graphics Card

Csound1 wrote:

 

vyrngrutt wrote:

 

 

 

Simply because there's no way to do so without losing a ton of money.

 

How will Apple lose money? this would be a write off and there are enough profits at Apple to ensure that they will be able to take it

objection, that is noise.

the witness can't answer that question not being an Apple's spokesman or representative.

"Apple stating they would cover the cost of the repair...However they didn't claim any responsibility for the defect..."

The fact that Apple is providing you with a free repair would be indicative that it has accepted responsibility.

Csound1 wrote:

 

vyrngrutt wrote:

 

 

 

Simply because there's no way to do so without losing a ton of money.

 

How will Apple lose money? this would be a write off and there are enough profits at Apple to ensure that they will be able to take it

Well, you tell me how a company will recall most, if not all the "flawed" machines without,  logistics costs for 1. man power to have them all fixed within a reasonable amount of time, hardware costs, possible fluctuations in shares in the future.. the list goes on and on.

If you knew anything about running a business you'd know that these types of things do cost money, a lot of money.

Maybe do yourself a favor and read up on any of their Recalls in the past. Then come back here and talk some more.

carl wolf wrote:

 

"Apple stating they would cover the cost of the repair...However they didn't claim any responsibility for the defect..."

 

The fact that Apple is providing you with a free repair would be indicative that it has accepted responsibility.

that would be sweet but they can still use whatever reasons for 'offering' a free repair, don't you think?

I speak for myself, I have made no claims to represent 'thousands' of others, I think that is an arrogant position.

And whether you like it or not there are too many reports of software changes restoring normal operation in this thread to ignore.

that may be so, but there are way more hardware related reports. You can pick and choose your battles here all day but you cannot sit there and say this is software related. I know it's probably hard for you to crawl out of Apple's behind but if you're going to make claims here, at least take the statistics into account.

I guess the test is: does this problem occur on a vanilla MBP (no hardware or software modifications) with Mavericks? Is there anyone that could set up that test?

Owen

Thanks, I do run business(s), and I do understand tax write-off rules very well. And I am sure that Apple has accountants that know them even better.

Does this suffice as a barebones system error? Occurred after format and fresh install - I'll be going to Apple store today to demand they do something at no cost to me

i have the same problem with the macbook pro from early 2011 . my gpu was spoiled after it started to act wired , it gave me black screen , then i had to force restart the computer , i had and fix the computer twice already ,

i thing its better to buy a new computer then to fix the macbook pro 2011 , maybe even use it as a backup computer , but not suitable for editing and rendering , i hope that apple will realize we had to give money for these computer , not air .

Well, then, good sir, surely, as a business owner, you must be quite aware that American tax write-off laws (or any other laws for that matter) do not necessarily apply to other countries. Well then, like I have stated before and will do so again; Read up on these matters before you come here talking out of your arse.

Csound1,

I've yet to read of any software that can repair what is a hardware problem? Can you point to a post where someone claims to have fixed this issue with software?

Clinton

MacBook Pro (15” Late 2011), OS X 10.??, 16GB Crucial RAM, 960GB M500 Crucial SSD, 27” Apple Thunderbolt Display

vyrngrutt wrote:

 

that may be so, but there are way more hardware related reports.

I'll take that seriously

First, It matters because if there is an observable correlation between the two it will assist with defining the problem, which (at least as far as this thread goes) is poorly detailed

Few posters (relative to the size of the thread) include any info, many provide info on other machines, other years, other problems, most come to complain, I do have a spreadsheet with data collected from here, on the 15" 2011 model it's about 60/40 40/60 software/hardware, but there are huge gaps from lack of data. I'm interested in why this happens. I doubt that software alone could be the cause but it may help delineate what the issue is.

You are not obligated to participate, and I make no promises of a cure, just information.

Quick example.

There are reports in this thread that upgrading (insert OS here) to (insert OS here) fixed it, this included Mavericks to Yosemite (fixed and/or triggered it) or Yosemite to Mavericks (fixed and/or triggered it) and one Mavericks to Linux (fixed it)

I Don't think that software is not somehow involved, I just want to know what the somehow factor is.

Well, I wish i could take.. any of your posts for that matter, seriously. First of all the issue does not only present itself on this thread a quick google search will open a whole new world for you on this matter. second, i only need to go back as far as 30 pages to see that most users have reported re-installing the system (some multiple times), swapping out HDD/SSD, reporting that this starts even outside of the OS/in single usermode/during OS installation/ I'm sure if i go back further I can find more examples to stomp on your parade here. but I will leave it at that.

akamyself wrote:

 

carl wolf wrote:

 

"Apple stating they would cover the cost of the repair...However they didn't claim any responsibility for the defect..."

 

The fact that Apple is providing you with a free repair would be indicative that it has accepted responsibility.

that would be sweet but they can still use whatever reasons for 'offering' a free repair, don't you think?

Knowing the legal profession's abilities with semantics I imagine that you would end up arguing about it at the very least