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  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,870 points)

    Doubt it.

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 (77,115 points)

    tomergold wrote:


    i know someone who called microsoft and they told him it'll be released in a few weeks... the same man on the phone it'll support hebrew


    Good luck with that!   In my view it is much more likely you will not see the Mac version for another year and Mac Word 2014 will still not support Hebrew/Arabic any more than the 2001, 2004, 2008, and 2011 versions did.   But it would be a very pleasant surprise if I were wrong:-)


    Instead of Word or Pages, use Mellel, Nisus Writer, TextEdit, or OpenOffice.

  • FatMac>MacPro Level 5 (4,420 points)

    JovAgoncUSA wrote:


    Hi Apple people.
    I just wanna know that if u have something idea about "Office 2013" for mac.
    U know what i mean, the office 2013 that is not the subscription one... I want the whole software which i can use whenever i want until i want to uninstall i...

    Apart from the other comments in this thread regarding the "when or if" of Office 201x for Mac, there's been a little noted change in the EULA for the licensed version of Office 2013 which will no doubt carry over to any future version of Office for Mac. The Cliff's Notes version is that until now, the Office license could be transferred from one computer to another as you upgraded your hardware or replaced a failing machine. Starting with  Office 2013, the computer it's activated on is the only one it can ever reside on. If the computer fails, a new one will require a new purchase of another Office license. The details are here ge_ties_suite_to_specific_PC_forever?taxonomyId=18&pageNumber=1.


    Microsoft really wants us all to subscribe.

  • Mindmeldz Level 1 (10 points)

    To clarify, micrsoft got some heat for that, so that is changed.


    You can now reinstall or transfer the licence to another computer with next gen office

  • FatMac>MacPro Level 5 (4,420 points)

    Mindmeldz wrote:


    To clarify, micrsoft got some heat for that, so that is changed.


    You can now reinstall or transfer the licence to another computer with next gen office

    I guess after raising the price of the licensed version and eliminating the Family Pack license altogether, forcing the user to buy Office all over again when moving from one computer to another was just too much for long-suffering Microsoft customers, so what they did in February, they undid in March. Way to go Microsoft!

  • TasmanRay Level 1 (0 points)

    Actually, I have found great alternatives to all my Win7 Pro apps for the Mac except Office.  I use Office 2011 for the Mac but it is quite different from the PC versionl, parfticularly on the Outlook side of the equation.  I had hoped that iWorks would provide that Office replacement but the most important component, which is Numbers, provides none of the advanced functions of Excel. I use the Office 365 subscription and find it to be cost-effective and it will be more so once Mac Office catches up to PC Office.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,870 points)

    TasmanRay wrote:


    Actually, I have found great alternatives to all my Win7 Pro apps for the Mac except Office.

    I use Excel's advanced scripting and VBA functions, there is no substitute in existence, only Excel for Windows provides these functions. I categorize all other spreadsheet programs as consumer level only.


    Outlook I don't miss at all (many alternatives) and the rest of Office is generically easy to replace, not so Excel.


    If Apple would give Numbers some real power it would be my choice, but it's still just the home budget spreadsheet app for me.

  • JayTelford Level 1 (0 points)

    It would be a better idea for people to just purchase the subscription version anyway.  It costs £95.98 per year (which is only £15.89 per year more) and for that extra £15.99 you get all the online collaboration tools from Office 365 and automatic upgrades when new versions are released. 


    Yes it is slightly more to buy the subscription when  you work it out over the year vs the cost of purchasing the hard copy but it is definitely worth that extra cost. 


    1. You can install Microsoft Office onto 5 computers (a mix of Mac and Windows), and
    2. You can also install Microsoft Office onto 5 mobile devices (a mix of Android, iPhone, WindowsRT device and Windows Mobile
    3. You get all the collaboration tools that goes with Microsoft Office Online
    4. You get 20GB of SkyDrive storage included (as well as the 7GB that you get free - note that's 27GB in total)
    5. You get 60 free minutes of Skype calls to any world destination
    6. You get every upgrade that is released for Microsoft Office (as long as your subscription is paid)
    7. Easily chop and change which devices your software is installed on by activating/deactivating them in your account (this can be accessed from any web-enabled device


    Compare this to what you get with the boxed version for £79.99 -


    1. A hard copy of Microsoft Office that you can install onto *one* computer only


    So when you compare subscription vs boxed, in the way, you see that the subscription is far better.

  • Barney-15E Level 8 (46,274 points)

       Compare this to what you get with the boxed version for £79.99 -


       A hard copy of Microsoft Office that you can install onto *one* computer only...


    ...that you can use forever.*


    I'd still be using Office 2008 if I couldn't get the 2011 version through HUP for $10.

    I paid about $150 for Office 2008, and was still using it on an older MBP that has died. If I had stuck with that, I would have paid $150 for what you would be paying £500 (and, I plan on getting at least five years out of 2011, unless there is a 2014 version I can get for $10). None of the other "benefits" are useful to me.

  • JayTelford Level 1 (0 points)

    I do see the point that you are making.  However, I need to keep up-to-date with the latest software.  Having said this, I am not that pleased at all with Office 2011 for Mac.  I have been contemplating using bootcamp to install Windows Ultimate onto a partition of my Mac so that I can use the actual Office 2013. 


    All of the collaboration is there in Office 2011 for Mac, its just not as well thought out or as simple and effortless to implement - thus it wastes time and resources. 


    This in part is down to the way Apple structures their operating system but the fault really does have to go to Microsoft for not thinking the thing through properly. 


    In regards to using older versions of Microsoft Office, some huge multinational businesses are still using Office 2003 because replacing all the licenses would cost them fortune.  I would wager though that not having the latest software would be costing them more in time and resources than to simply upgrade. 


    For the home user, cost would probably be more important then providing resources but I genuinely do believe that not keeping up-to-date with the latest technology is a bad thing, whether you are a home user or a business.  If for example we needed to communicate for whatever reason and I sent you a file in .docx format, Microsoft Word 2008, wouldn't be able to open it.


    You would then have to e-mail me asking for the document in a different format.  I would then have to recreate the document in a format that you were able to open and send it back to you.  This would all have to be done by e-mail because Office 2008 cant integrate with SkyDrive and although it does have some collaboration tools, the tools it possesses (in my opinion) are now antiquated because the technology has moved on so much. 


    If you want to create a document and print it out, Office 2008 will do just fine but if you want to collaborate with others, Office 2008 takes longer, wastes time, resources and increases cost.


    By the way, although I can only install Office on 5 machines using my subscription, that subscription covers 20 users as there is 4 users on each computer.  Each user has their own "" address and each user can choose to upgrade their own SkyDrive to a larger amount of storage if they wish to.  If I had to pay £79.99 for each computer, that would be £399.95 and if I had to pay £79.99 for every user, that would be £1599.80.  I also have Office installed on my iPhone and my families phones taking up the 5 mobile installs (which would be an extra cost without the subscription)


    When you start to count the cost of what I pay £7.95 per month, compared to the cost of what I would have to pay, if I purchased everything I currently have, as boxed software, there really is no comparison between boxed software and subscription and that does not take into account any of the other benefits that I mentioned in my last post.

  • Tom in London Level 4 (1,610 points)

    jentwins wrote:


    Try not using Microsoft at all. We switched to using only iWork since installing ML.No problems and we have never looked back. Much cheaper too!


    I hope you have a strategy for what you're going to do further on down the line when Apple discontinues iWork and it no longer runs on the MacOS.

  • Tom in London Level 4 (1,610 points)

    I'm still using Office 2008, which is better than Office 2011 (which I also have but hardly ever use).

  • TasmanRay Level 1 (0 points)

    The problem with iWork is Numbers.  Numbers does not support Excel's advanced features and I have too much invested in my models to rework them in Numbers.  If Numbers would support Excel's advanced features, I would replace Office with iWork.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,870 points)


  • TasmanRay Level 1 (0 points)

    Would suggest you not use bootcamp but use VMWare Fusion.  It allows you to have a virtual Windows PC running in a window right on your MAC.  I've been using it on my MAC for over 2 years and it is excellent.  This allows you to easily move between Windows and MAC programs.  The latest I have read is that the current Win version of office will be out on the MAC in early 2014.  Office 365 is a good solution for those who want to stay ahead of the release curve on Office.

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