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Support for the military? You're right, it's probably overrated...

Ok, so when going through the support channels, unless (and this is a LOOOONG shot) a user is able to search for a solution in your support site and fix it themselves, they have two, and only two options. One of which is to take it into a store. That's wonderful for a large portion of America who lives near an Apple store. However, there are those who that's not a practical answer. At least those individuals are left with the ability to make a phone call. Better than nothing.

Then there are those of us in the military who get deployed to places like Afghanistan. Is it impossible to make a phone call from over here? Of course not, but when I do I use my computer. I'm sure you at Apple can understand that if I'm wanting to call about an issue with my computer, chance are, my computer's not going to allow me to make that call.

Next issue, I'm an outside the box thinker so I have my family call on my behalf. I give them my computer serial number, apple ID, etc. Anything I figure she would need in order to get my account/device recognized and to prove that I do have the Apple Care Plan. I received an email from Apple support the next day (I won't fault you on the time it took because it is afterall the weekend and I am in a largely different timezone). The individual said that based on what my wife was able to describe, he thought he had it figured out what would solve the problem. Resetting the NVRAM/PRAM and/or the SMC. While reading the symptoms that could be present if those things need reset, I noticed it didn't sound like it matched up but, hey, you guys are the experts so I did as I was told anyway. Naturally it did nothing to help. I'd like to know when Apple plans on incorporating some means of support for those in out of the ordinary locations. Email would work, many companies have interactive live chat options that could possibly help in areas. Seeing as how even the email from Apple support says "do not reply" you're still quite sub-par there. I'd also like to know when you plan on hiring people who do more than follow a little checklist of "if this, then that" solutions for computer issues. Maybe someone who can do a little analytical thinking. The answer I got in email seemed very automated, and not like there was any true thought put into it.

I know that you at Apple are smart enough to be able to sense the frustration in this message and I hope the degree of which isn't lost in the fact that I'm holding back how I truly feel and am trying to be a reasonable, controlled customer and not just going irate. However, I had been anti-Apple and Mac for a LONG time. I avoided iPods when they came out initially but eventually gave in, then one device led to another, built and built until I finally broke down and did what I thought I would NEVER do and bought a Mac. Wonderful machine until it stopped being a wonderful machine. Now that combined with the lack of support I'm getting is making me question my decision to give your products a chance. Please work with me. You have to understand, other than email from my work computer, my Macbook Pro and the means of communication it provides (Skype, Facetime, iMessage, etc) is my only means of speaking to my family to include wife and daughter. I've been seperated from my daughter cause of training and this deployment over half of her life. This is my only means of connecting. It doesn't matter how great your product CAN be. If the long term, big picture of the useage and support for that product isn't worth it, I'll take my future business elsewhere.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Feb 3, 2013 9:11 AM

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Feb 3, 2013 12:38 PM in response to MikeMiller06

Ok, for ventilation purposes, use it so that air can flow from the rear and along the bottom pan. Contrary to popular belief, these ain't LAPtops, they're shrunken down desktops that prefer to be on the table. If possible get a stand, that will elevate it a bit from the desk and allow more airflow. I've a Road Tools CoolPad, but in a pinch have even used a pair of water bottle caps under the rear corners to lift its arse a bit and get better airflow.


As for the software, suggest you get an external drive to save a bootable clone for backup and recovery. Then, if the product did not have an installer, you may need to go a-hunting for all those bits and pieces left behind. Given that some products did not leave an uninstaller behind, I suggest you download Pacifist, from Charlessoft.com ( http://www.charlessoft.com/ ). Now look in the /Library / Receipts folder, where every app that used an installer should be listed. Open each you don't want with Pacifist, which will show you where all the bits and pieces were placed so you can safely zap only the offending code. Holler back for help if needed.


As for transitioning you from your stay at the Windoze Evil Empire, may I suggest David Pogue's Switching to the Mac, ML Edition? http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025641.do

Feb 3, 2013 1:02 PM in response to MikeMiller06

Nope, Pacifist isn't a fixit and installs nothing but itself. It is a tool you can use to examine the .pkg files that software comes in and that the Installer uses. So you can see for yourself what was left where. It is completely safe, has been maintained by its developer since the start of time and can be safely removed at the end by dragging to the trash if you like. This for the products you have that don't have an uninstaller and one can't be found.


Back to keeping check on the Mac, another tool you can evaluate to use is iStat Menus, that lets you monitor all sorts of stuff directly from the menubar: http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/ This one doesn't fix anything either, just lets you keep tabs on what the Mac is doing in an easy to access way.

Feb 3, 2013 2:00 PM in response to Courcoul

Courcoul wrote:


... Contrary to popular belief, these ain't LAPtops, they're shrunken down desktops that prefer to be on the table.


Apple has studiously avoided the word "laptop". Most laptop manufacturers do. You won't find mention of the word anywhere in Apple's documentation, even in press releases and SEC filings, except when referring to other manufacturer's crummy products. I suspect it has been banned from being uttered by any Apple representative acting in an official capacity.


Officially, they're "portables" and in some cases, "notebooks".


Of course this is silly and everyone else calls them what they are - laptops.

Feb 3, 2013 3:42 PM in response to MikeMiller06

MikeMiller06 wrote:


Where do you find uninstallers? Am I missing something? In the finder, I find the app that has the icon of the app in it but it's not like Windows that has the .exe launcher, sub-directories, an uninstaller and everything packaged in one nice, neat little folder.

If you right click on an app icon (in Applications) it will open (select Reveal Package Contents) revealing the structure below. The uninstaller may be in there.

Feb 3, 2013 3:59 PM in response to John Galt

John Galt wrote:


Of course this is silly and everyone else calls them what they are - laptops.

Heh, heh, and I recall a story in The Register about an English boffin who wanted to press charges after he got burn blisters on his ...er... "thing" after intensive use of his laptop. After the magistrates got over their mirth & laughter, the case was dismissed. And recommended he not get so personal with his PC. 😁


But anyway, this may explain Apple's adversion to the term.

Support for the military? You're right, it's probably overrated...

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