MikeMiller06

Q: Support for the military?  You're right, it's probably overrated...

Ok, so when going through the support channels, unless (and this is a LOOOONG shot) a user is able to search for a solution in your support site and fix it themselves, they have two, and only two options.  One of which is to take it into a store.  That's wonderful for a large portion of America who lives near an Apple store.  However, there are those who that's not a practical answer.  At least those individuals are left with the ability to make a phone call.  Better than nothing.

Then there are those of us in the military who get deployed to places like Afghanistan.  Is it impossible to make a phone call from over here?  Of course not, but when I do I use my computer.  I'm sure you at Apple can understand that if I'm wanting to call about an issue with my computer, chance are, my computer's not going to allow me to make that call. 

Next issue, I'm an outside the box thinker so I have my family call on my behalf.  I give them my computer serial number, apple ID, etc.  Anything I figure she would need in order to get my account/device recognized and to prove that I do have the Apple Care Plan.  I received an email from Apple support the next day (I won't fault you on the time it took because it is afterall the weekend and I am in a largely different timezone).  The individual said that based on what my wife was able to describe, he thought he had it figured out what would solve the problem.  Resetting the NVRAM/PRAM and/or the SMC.  While reading the symptoms that could be present if those things need reset, I noticed it didn't sound like it matched up but, hey, you guys are the experts so I did as I was told anyway.  Naturally it did nothing to help.  I'd like to know when Apple plans on incorporating some means of support for those in out of the ordinary locations.  Email would work, many companies have interactive live chat options that could possibly help in areas.  Seeing as how even the email from Apple support says "do not reply" you're still quite sub-par there.  I'd also like to know when you plan on hiring people who do more than follow a little checklist of "if this, then that" solutions for computer issues.  Maybe someone who can do a little analytical thinking.  The answer I got in email seemed very automated, and not like there was any true thought put into it. 

I know that you at Apple are smart enough to be able to sense the frustration in this message and I hope the degree of which isn't lost in the fact that I'm holding back how I truly feel and am trying to be a reasonable, controlled customer and not just going irate.  However, I had been anti-Apple and Mac for a LONG time.  I avoided iPods when they came out initially but eventually gave in, then one device led to another, built and built until I finally broke down and did what I thought I would NEVER do and bought a Mac.  Wonderful machine until it stopped being a wonderful machine.  Now that combined with the lack of support I'm getting is making me question my decision to give your products a chance.  Please work with me.  You have to understand, other than email from my work computer, my Macbook Pro and the means of communication it provides (Skype, Facetime, iMessage, etc) is my only means of speaking to my family to include wife and daughter.  I've been seperated from my daughter cause of training and this deployment over half of her life.  This is my only means of connecting.  It doesn't matter how great your product CAN be.  If the long term, big picture of the useage and support for that product isn't worth it, I'll take my future business elsewhere. 

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Feb 3, 2013 9:11 AM

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  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Feb 5, 2013 9:17 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 5, 2013 9:17 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Mike,

     

    while you are waiting for your new external drive, a couple of FYI's:

     

    most externals are formatted for Windows, so either have your wife do this - if she has a Mac - or you need to do it when you get it. With the new drive plugged in, open Disk Utility > select the Partition tab > select one (or more if you'd like) partitions > name it whatever you want > make sure it is formatted "Mac OS Extended Journaled" and, under Options, that it has the GUID Partition scheme. Then hit apply. This will erase and format the drive properly. If there was any software on it, it will be nuked as you do not need it. Your drive is now ready to be used as a Time Machine backup, a bootable clone, or any other backup method (drag 'n drop) you want.

     

    Read up on Time Machine here:

     

    http://pondini.org/OSX/Home.html

     

    Or, if you want to do a bootable clone, you can do that with either CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper - with either, you wind up with an exact and bootable copy/clone of your system which means you can boot from it and work even if your internal drive is having a problem. It is extremely easy to do - post back if you want to go that route once you have your external drive.

     

    Lastly, be careful blowing out dust - it is usually not advised as it can redistribute it inside the machine; using a vacuum hose to lightly go across the area is generally recommended because it attracts/pulls out the dust. However, I realize you most likely do not have a vacuum handy right now.....

  • by EZ Jim,

    EZ Jim EZ Jim Feb 19, 2013 3:02 PM in response to Courcoul
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    Feb 19, 2013 3:02 PM in response to Courcoul

    Thanks for the P.S., Courcoul.

     

    I probably should have included additional explanation in my original post to Mike, but I always to keep my responses brief.

    Courcoul wrote: ... P.S. Jim, about the "blowing compressed air in the Mac" ....

     

    I prefer to ground my Macs and then apply low-volume suction near the cooling intake openings.  I work from the outside, and I don't remove the bottom pan.

     

    I believe that proper vacuum pulls the dust back out rather than possibly forcing some of it farther into the machines.  Moreover, vacuum eliminates the compressed air possibility of introducing propellants, liquids, or condensable vapors into the interior of my Macs.

     

    My method, which has served me well for many years, avoids the proscription against liquids and moisture in http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3226 and its predecessor articles.

     

     

    Mac OSX 10.8.2

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Feb 5, 2013 5:12 PM in response to babowa
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    Feb 5, 2013 5:12 PM in response to babowa

    Replying to myself just to see the other posts since my last one.....

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 16, 2013 11:01 PM in response to Courcoul
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    Feb 16, 2013 11:01 PM in response to Courcoul

    I got the hard drive and backed everything up....You've got me scared about the ML installer....Is this another one of those downloads that if it gets interrupted makes you start from scratch?  Cause that's all but an impossibility.  It took me 2 1/2 days to successfully update firmware for an Airport Express.  Is there another way to get it successfully downloaded?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 17, 2013 7:30 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 17, 2013 7:30 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    You can stop and start the download so it should resume from an interruption, note the word 'should'

     

    There are no alternative ways to obtain it.

     

    Ensure that you make a copy of the installer before startng the install, once will be enough for that download.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Feb 17, 2013 8:28 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 17, 2013 8:28 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    As Csound said, make sure to make a copy of the installer: after the download is finished, dismiss the installer temporarily (close it) and find it in your Applications folder. Option click it and drag a copy to another folder or external drive for safekeeping. Then return to the installer and hit install - it will self destruct after the installation is finished.

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 17, 2013 9:45 AM in response to babowa
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    Feb 17, 2013 9:45 AM in response to babowa

    How do I get a copy of the installer?  The only means of installation I'm aware of is downloading Mountain Lion through the app store.  Will that give me an installer file I can keep on my external?  I thought that just installed it directly.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 17, 2013 9:46 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 17, 2013 9:46 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    That's correct but ... after the download completes you have to push a button to start the install, don't. Instead copy the installer to a different location, then go back to the Applications folder and start the original installer.

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 19, 2013 8:31 AM in response to Csound1
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    Feb 19, 2013 8:31 AM in response to Csound1

    Boy are we cruisin!  Over 48 hours of downloading and I'm 1.72 GB complete.  Sounds bad but the internet's been worse here.  I had a standard app update going one time.  Started it a couple hours before bed, when I woke up 40mb were done.  I'll let y'all know what happens when I complete and do the reinstall (after copying it, noted, I do NOT want to have to re-download this thing).

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Feb 19, 2013 8:34 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 19, 2013 8:34 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Good luck!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 19, 2013 9:37 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 19, 2013 9:37 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    MikeMiller06 wrote:

     

    Boy are we cruisin!  Over 48 hours of downloading and I'm 1.72 GB complete. 

    And this is a good internet day?

     

    You seem to have the patience, and the humor to deal with this but what a PITA.

     

    Remember to save it before you install

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 19, 2013 10:05 AM in response to Csound1
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    Feb 19, 2013 10:05 AM in response to Csound1

    As you can probably see from my very original post, patience isn't always my strong point.  Although I'm still slightly less than pleased with Apple's direct efforts at customer service geared towards those of us OCONUS (Outside Continental United States) I'm thankful for all of y'all's help.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    I'm thankful for all of y'all's help.

     

    We love doing it........

  • by ~Bee,

    ~Bee ~Bee Feb 19, 2013 1:27 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 19, 2013 1:27 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    Mike --

     

    We all want to help you. And we're so sorry you had such a terrible time in the beginning.  I can tell you now, that you can always count on us.  We're in for the long haul.

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 28, 2013 10:04 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:04 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    THE DOWNLOAD IS COMPLETE!  Rain and network issues really prolonged the **** of out that thing but I have the OS install file, it and all of my other important documents are backed up on an external hard drive.  Now, how do I go about formatting the hard drive or whatever I need to do to start with a clean slate?  Basically...what next?

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