MikeMiller06

Q: Support for the military?  You're right, it's probably overrated...

Ok, so when going through the support channels, unless (and this is a LOOOONG shot) a user is able to search for a solution in your support site and fix it themselves, they have two, and only two options.  One of which is to take it into a store.  That's wonderful for a large portion of America who lives near an Apple store.  However, there are those who that's not a practical answer.  At least those individuals are left with the ability to make a phone call.  Better than nothing.

Then there are those of us in the military who get deployed to places like Afghanistan.  Is it impossible to make a phone call from over here?  Of course not, but when I do I use my computer.  I'm sure you at Apple can understand that if I'm wanting to call about an issue with my computer, chance are, my computer's not going to allow me to make that call. 

Next issue, I'm an outside the box thinker so I have my family call on my behalf.  I give them my computer serial number, apple ID, etc.  Anything I figure she would need in order to get my account/device recognized and to prove that I do have the Apple Care Plan.  I received an email from Apple support the next day (I won't fault you on the time it took because it is afterall the weekend and I am in a largely different timezone).  The individual said that based on what my wife was able to describe, he thought he had it figured out what would solve the problem.  Resetting the NVRAM/PRAM and/or the SMC.  While reading the symptoms that could be present if those things need reset, I noticed it didn't sound like it matched up but, hey, you guys are the experts so I did as I was told anyway.  Naturally it did nothing to help.  I'd like to know when Apple plans on incorporating some means of support for those in out of the ordinary locations.  Email would work, many companies have interactive live chat options that could possibly help in areas.  Seeing as how even the email from Apple support says "do not reply" you're still quite sub-par there.  I'd also like to know when you plan on hiring people who do more than follow a little checklist of "if this, then that" solutions for computer issues.  Maybe someone who can do a little analytical thinking.  The answer I got in email seemed very automated, and not like there was any true thought put into it. 

I know that you at Apple are smart enough to be able to sense the frustration in this message and I hope the degree of which isn't lost in the fact that I'm holding back how I truly feel and am trying to be a reasonable, controlled customer and not just going irate.  However, I had been anti-Apple and Mac for a LONG time.  I avoided iPods when they came out initially but eventually gave in, then one device led to another, built and built until I finally broke down and did what I thought I would NEVER do and bought a Mac.  Wonderful machine until it stopped being a wonderful machine.  Now that combined with the lack of support I'm getting is making me question my decision to give your products a chance.  Please work with me.  You have to understand, other than email from my work computer, my Macbook Pro and the means of communication it provides (Skype, Facetime, iMessage, etc) is my only means of speaking to my family to include wife and daughter.  I've been seperated from my daughter cause of training and this deployment over half of her life.  This is my only means of connecting.  It doesn't matter how great your product CAN be.  If the long term, big picture of the useage and support for that product isn't worth it, I'll take my future business elsewhere. 

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Feb 3, 2013 9:11 AM

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  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 28, 2013 10:15 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:15 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    As I understand it, I go to the disk recover tool while starting up and clear it there.  But someone here mentioned that it would then automatically redownload the OS.  I thought that's why I was downloading and saving a backup before.  Can I just plug in my external hard drive and install from the install file on there?

  • by ~Bee,

    ~Bee ~Bee Feb 28, 2013 10:25 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:25 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    Mike, that's really great news . . .

     

    Can you hang in there for a little while?  I'm positive that the guys more knowledgeable with this end of things will come along in a few hours. 

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Feb 28, 2013 10:30 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:30 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    Standing by.  Definitely not wiping my hard drive till I get a little more guidance.  Thanks.

  • by ~Bee,

    ~Bee ~Bee Mar 1, 2013 8:14 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 8:14 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Mike --

     

    I found EZ Jim,and his recommendations follow:Erase1.png

    Erase2.png

     

    Once it's zero'd out, name the disk,and it will be ready to use with no inherited problems.

     

    Any questions, write back.

  • by ~Bee,

    ~Bee ~Bee Mar 1, 2013 8:28 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 8:28 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    PS --

     

    EZ had another thought.

    If you want to have this disk encrypted, select Enrypted (Journaled).

    That means you put in the pw to be able to see anything that's on that disk.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 1, 2013 8:32 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 8:32 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Hi Mike

     

    Save a copy of the installer now, the original will delete when the installation completes

    (make a folder on the internal and save a copy there, do the same on the external, so there will be 2)

     

    MikeMiller06 wrote:

     

    As I understand it, I go to the disk recover tool while starting up and clear it there.  But someone here mentioned that it would then automatically redownload the OS.  I thought that's why I was downloading and saving a backup before.  Can I just plug in my external hard drive and install from the install file on there?

    I suggest installing onto the external drive, then you will be able to reboot to the external and perform data recovery etc to the external. Once the external is as you need it to be you can clone it back to the internal.

     

    Don't encrypt, it makes for more complex methods when recovering, if you wish to encrypt make it the final stage.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Mar 1, 2013 10:50 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 10:50 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Sorry, I'm (very) late getting back to the party - you'll be fine following CSound's suggestions. Make sure you have a copy of the installer on a disk you are not erasing (of course). Booted from your internal, you should be able to direct the installer to install on your external, then use Setup Assistant to port over whatever you want, and when you're done with that, boot into the external. Now wipe your internal using Disk Utility and then use CCC to clone your new installation back onto the erased internal.

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Mar 1, 2013 7:37 PM in response to babowa
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    Mar 1, 2013 7:37 PM in response to babowa

    Ok, I think I get what y'all are saying.  I'll let ya know how it goes when I get back to my room tonight or maybe if I have a chance to try during lunch or dinner break.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Mar 1, 2013 7:41 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 7:41 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    Good luck!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 1, 2013 8:28 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 1, 2013 8:28 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    MikeMiller06 wrote:

     

    Ok, I think I get what y'all are saying.  I'll let ya know how it goes when I get back to my room tonight or maybe if I have a chance to try during lunch or dinner break.

    What's for dinner

  • by ~Bee,

    ~Bee ~Bee Mar 4, 2013 5:38 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 4, 2013 5:38 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Mike --

     

    How are you coming along?  Do you need more support?  Let us know, OK?

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Mar 5, 2013 8:50 AM in response to ~Bee
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    Mar 5, 2013 8:50 AM in response to ~Bee

    Thank you everyone for your help and efforts.  After formatting and partitioning my hard drive, making one partition a bootable drive and installing the OS on there, even after booting of that section that had nothing on it but a brand newly installed OS, it's still on the fritz.  The military teaches us to never accept defeat...yet I am at this time accepting defeat.  It's out of my capability/knowledge base and despite diagnostic tests, I'm left with the thought that it could still possibly be a hardware issue that needs Apple support.  When postal personnel come out in a couple weeks I'm sending it back stateside.  Thanks again for the help.  Here's to hoping it was just a glitchy system as I bought it right when the new MacBooks were released.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Mar 5, 2013 1:04 PM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 5, 2013 1:04 PM in response to MikeMiller06

    So very sorry to hear that! So, what  and how exactly is "on the fritz"?

     

    When you say glitchy system - are you referring to the hardware? It really shouldn't be the software if you put a brand new install on it. Unless - if you ported old stuff over, that could be including something incompatible?

  • by MikeMiller06,

    MikeMiller06 MikeMiller06 Mar 6, 2013 2:17 AM in response to babowa
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    Mar 6, 2013 2:17 AM in response to babowa

    No, when I booted up and still had issues, I was booting the computer off an external hard drive partition that had NOTHING but a brand new O/S installation on it. 

     

    By glitchy, I mean that the screen goes haywire (picture a computer on an acid trip, random parts of the screen changing colors, having pieces of screen image distorted in other parts of the screen, etc, hard to describe) and the system locks up if I don't immediately close the application I open that caused it.  Bottom line, if I open ANY application that's more intensive than email, internet, iMessage, then it acts up.  Photo Booth, iPhoto, Adobe programs, some media players, etc all do it.

     

    Anyway, it's just not worth the hassle anymore, not to mention, as slow as the mail is I need to make sure it's stateside to get repaired before my year's up on Apple Care Plan.  No way I'm going out of pocket to repair something that I didn't damage.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 6, 2013 6:39 AM in response to MikeMiller06
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    Mar 6, 2013 6:39 AM in response to MikeMiller06

    Sadly I have to agree, a clean install does remove most of the software questions .... hardware looks like the most likely cause (how's that for a lot of 'qualifiers') Returning while in Warranty makes sense. Sorry we couldn't get it going and thanks for your efforts on our behalf over there.

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