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Can I put a hardrive from my old crashed iMac G4 into an older G3 to recover my files

Apparently, logic board is damaged. Tried to start it recently and the button flashed and it beeped a couple times. thought it was ram so iswapped ram from my G3 into the G4. Now it goes into a loop trieing to start but doesn’t (G4). So I want to switch harddrives to get the files off. The G3 is running OS9. Possible?

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Posted on Feb 3, 2013 12:09 PM

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Feb 3, 2013 2:44 PM in response to 2Cre8Tiv


As explained by Sad Macs, Bombs, and Other Disasters (an invaluable resource) the number of beeps indicates a problem encountered by the Mac's Power On Self-Test (POST):
• 1 beeps = No RAM installed/detected
• 2 beeps = Incompatible RAM type installed
• 3 beeps = No RAM banks passed memory testing
• 4 beeps = No good boot images in the boot ROM
• 5 beeps = Bad ROM boot block or processor is not usable

hughvane write in

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/apple-desktops/212840-imac-g4-3-beeps-startup-h elp.html




You need to figure out the level of your firmware before installing 10.2 or greater. ( The PC name for firmware is BIOS. ) Installing 10.2 with a down level firmware will most likely make your iMac unusable and difficult to fix.


What is Open Firmware?

The firmware on a PPC is called Open Firmware. Open Firmware software receives control when you poweron your machine. It does some hardware testing and some hardware configuration then passes control to your version of Mac OS. It reside on a PROM ( program read only memory ) chip on the logic board.


Figuring out what level of Open Firmware you have?

1) Mac OS 9.x or 8.x, you need to use the Apple System Profiler.

Apple -> Apple System Profiler


2) Mac OS X, use the System Profiler.

Apple -> About This Mac

click on the More Info... tab

click on Hardware

read the Boot ROM Version


3) Open Firmware, boot into Open Firmware.

Power on your iMac while holding down command+option+o+f

The first output line contains the firmware level. Mine reads:

Apple PowerMac4,1 4.1.9f1 BootRom built on 09/14/01 at 13.18.04

Copyright 1994-2001 Apple Computer Inc.


On my machine, I have 4.1.9f1.


What firmware do you need?

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117


For a slot loading iMac, this article indicates that you need to be running 9.1 or later version of Mac OS Classic.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130

"The iMac Firmware Update 4.1.9 will only run on iMac computers with slot-loading CD or DVD drives running Mac OS 9.1 or later from a local drive. If you are using Mac OS X you must boot from a local Mac OS 9.1 or later writeable partition (not a CD, or network disk) prior to following the update instructions."


You can download the Mac OS 9 updates from the Apple site.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387?viewlocale=en_US

Feb 5, 2013 10:28 AM in response to Niel

You need an external Firewire drive to boot a PowerPC Mac computer.


I recommend you do a google search on any external harddrive you are looking at.


I bought a low cost external drive enclosure. When I started having trouble with it, I did a google search and found a lot of complaints about the drive enclosure. I ended up buying a new drive enclosure. On my second go around, I decided to buy a drive enclosure with a good history of working with Macs. The chip set seems to be the key ingredient. The Oxford line of chips seems to be good. I got the Oxford 911.



Here is a picture of a firewire port:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_ Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg/800px-IEEE_1394_Firewire_PCI_Expansion_Card_Digon3.jpg



The drive and closure that I list supports only older parallel ata. PATA drives were in the iMac g3 and iMac G4 ( 99 percent belief. )


Here is an external hd enclosure.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEFW91UAL1K/

Can I put a hardrive from my old crashed iMac G4 into an older G3 to recover my files

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