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how to build drums for a song you have already written?

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I have a few songs I wrote on my acoustic guitar that I really want to transfer onto logic but I really would like to build drums to it. Is it possible to add drums to a traditional pop rock song with tempo changes within the song? DO I need to mic an actual drummer or can I just add drums within logic. How do I do this? Be very specific please. I need all the help I can get

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  • gen_ Level 2 Level 2 (335 points)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-23IG461aHY

     

    then

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lGYMo8z4gA

     

    then

     

    http://apple-logic-studio.wonderhowto.com/how-to/create-beats-with-ultrabeat-dru m-machine-logic-230361/

     

    But before you start, let me ask you this. If I found that all with less than 30 seconds of googling they you must be very impatient and in a hurry to get this done. As a professional I can already tell you that you are not going to be happy with what you get unless you have the patience to learn your tools and proactively research yourself. If you are a singer/songwriter/instrumentalist then find yourself a producer/engineer, it's simply not going to be worth your time to do the years of learning needed to make that great record you want all by yourself and you will be disappointed/frustrated going down this path.

  • Eriksimon Level 6 Level 6 (10,415 points)

    ocram769 wrote:

     

    I have a few songs I wrote on my acoustic guitar that I really want to transfer onto logic but I really would like to build drums to it. Is it possible to add drums to a traditional pop rock song with tempo changes within the song? DO I need to mic an actual drummer or can I just add drums within logic. How do I do this? Be very specific please. I need all the help I can get

    Yes, it can be very simple even: just create a Software Instrument track with an instance of the EXS24 sampler on it, on the sampler itself choose a drumkit, and get yourself a simple padcontroller (Korg Nanopad, Akai LPD8) and play along and record that.

    You can also "program" drums (step input), but playing them yourself on a MIDI controller (like the ones I mentioned) is much more satisfying and yields (much) more lively, vibrant results.

    Imo the best way to do this, if the song is predominantly in one tempo, to just create a very simple drumpattern (Kicks on 1 & 3, snares on 2 & 4 and 2 hihathits per beat) and play along with that.

    And yes, tempo changes are also possible, you can also record your guitar without a click or beat, but then you would have to adjust Logics' tempo to your playing AFTER you've recorded it, by using Beat Mapping.

    In either case you can add drums to it (and bass - drums with no (tonal) bass always sounds a bit orphaned to me...).

    audio recording:

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=14%26se ction=13%26hash=apple_ref:doc:uid:TempBookID-ReplacedWhenAssociatingWithMessierR evision-43984REC_SC_1107-1040935

    Beat Mapping audio:

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=34%26se ction=3%26tasks=true

    The Tempo Track:

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=33%26se ction=2%26tasks=true

     

    It is hard to be more specific, but if you have written rockpopsongs with (roughly) one tempo per song, then I would opt for *1, playing along a beat. If you have a lot of "organic" tempo changes that you weant to keep in the song, then use the Beat Mapping (after recording). After you've "beatmapped" you can add drums, drums that will conform to the grid (without beatmapping you can also record in drums and never bother with the tempo setting, but you miss a lot of functions (like quantisation) that way. I'd go for playing your songs to a click or beat, and then add/alter the drums to taste. Having to beatmap is a lot more work and will not necessarily yield better results. But, as always, it all depends on your choice.

     

    To record audio, first make sure your hardware is set up correctly, then set correct input levels on your audio interface (testing, testing...), then set the preferred tempo (turn on the click to assess the tempo), add the drumbeat and loop it, then record arm your audio track, hit record and play!

  • Ronda Wilson Level 8 Level 8 (40,560 points)

    Please pardon the intrusion…

     

    Hi, Erik! 

     

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  • Eriksimon Level 6 Level 6 (10,415 points)

    Thanks! To be honest, I was totally unaware that I was near another level. I'll come over and "celebrate" as soon as I can.

    And at what level will the watercooler contain champaign...?

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