14 Replies Latest reply: Feb 9, 2013 10:38 AM by Edward_C
polkama Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

i have a couple of songs in my library that are not elegible for itunes match does anyone knows how to fix this? i think that the problem its that the song is a compilation and is the whole cd


itunes match, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)
  • Jimzgoldfinch Level 5 Level 5 (6,095 points)

    Hi,

    What is the bit rate, media type and kind?

     

    Jim

  • polkama Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    bit rate 320 kbps, media type mp3 music size 276.9 mb thanks for yopur help

  • HACKINT0SH Level 5 Level 5 (5,755 points)

    Wait, if this is one single file that is that size, then that's your problem.

  • polkama Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i kind of know that the size might be the problem im just trying to get around that since i downloaded the file from internet and its a whole cd that i dont want to cut it

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,785 points)

    Te only way to get the track into iTunes Match will be to re-encode it at at s lower bit-rate to try to get it under 200MB. But that will degrade the sound. You will be better off splitting the file into discrete tracks.

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    First off, I'm not sure all the advice here is correct.  To match means you could have a lower quality file and get a higher quality match.  In any case, I am not familiar with itunes match, but I can speak to Google Play, and you could try that as an alternative way of uploading your music into the sky and listening to it on your device.  You can purchase or get a free app from the app store that allows streaming of Google Play. 

     

    If I have helped solve your problem please remember to post this reply as such.

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,785 points)

    Edward, the advice giving to the OP is correct. Files of more than 200 MB are ineligble for iTunes Match. Besides, an album that is all one track will never match to anything in the store.

     

    FYI it is against the discussion board TOS to ask for points.

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @Michael, your assumption about my comment is incorrect.  You assume I am reffering to the size, however if you read my comment carefully you will see that I only commented on the quality conversion. 

     

    Also, I am not asking for points, I am merely encouraging others to remember to rate whether the respose helped or solved the issue.  I do not believe it is against policy to ask people to remember to do so. 

     

    Have a nice day.

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,785 points)

    Edward_C wrote:

     

    @Michael, your assumption about my comment is incorrect.  You assume I am reffering to the size, however if you read my comment carefully you will see that I only commented on the quality conversion.

    I did read your comment carefully, and it is not clear that you "only commented on the quality conversion." It is a fact that down converting a lossy music file from 320 Kbps to 256 Kbps will throw away even more data in the track. Whether you or I or the OP could hear that loss is debabatable. But why do it if the OP doesn't have to. As a single track, as the OP states it is, the album in question will never "match" to anything in the iTunes Store since the Store does not seel Albums like that. The Store sells single tracks. The track the OP has will only be uploaded, unless they split the album into discrete tracks.

     

    As you state, you don't know much about iTunes Match. It might be prudent for you to use the service before offering advice on it.

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am sorry but it looks like we will have to disagree.  I stated, "To match means that you could have a lower quality file and get a higher quality match".  And this statement is a fact, so I don't want to debate semantics.  In any case, the rest of what you have to say I have not commented on, in fact I don't believe I specifically addressed anything you wrote originally.  Therefore, again I think you are overlooking my original comment entirely.

     

    Yes, I do not have much experience with match, however the advice I gave was to correct the miss perception of quality, for which I do have experience with as I have read the official apple instructions on the matter.  No one is expected to have to know everything in order to speak truth into this forum.  And I would ask that you please consider this before you say, "It might be prudent for you to use the service before offering advice on it", as it is construed to be disrespectful given that you know very little about me and what I might be able to contribute.  In other words, don't judge too quickly.  Did you know that I have read a specific apple article on the matter of uploading a users lower quality file and receiving a match via iTunes Match in a higher quality?  You don't need to try everything to know anything.

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    and I'll add this about my original comment:

     

    If you can get the original in the format that apple requires, you could potentially not be concerned about "low quality", as long as iTunes can find a match, you could potentially have iTunes match with a higher quality track.  So in the context I'm referring to, focusing on quality is not an issue.  You may find yourself uploading at one quality and iTunes matching at a higher quality.

  • Michael Allbritton Level 6 Level 6 (16,785 points)

    We are certainly talking at cross purposes. Your comments do not address the OPs situation at all.

     

    The OP has stated they have a "whole CD" downloaded from the internet as one track at 320 Kbps MP3 that is 276.9 MB is size. The reality is, that file, at that size, will never be "uploaded" nor will it "match." Period. Even transcoding the file down to, say, 256 Kbps will get the file under 200 MB (which I doubt it will) it will still never "match" because the "whole CD" is one track. To get the file under 200 MB will require transcoding it down to, probably 128 Kbps which will be a significant degradation in sound quality since it is a lossy to lossy conversion.

     

    So my suggestion to the OP to split album into discrete tracks is a good suggestion because this will maintain the same file quality while giving a chance for the tracks to "match" to tracks in the store, and if they do not "match" they will then be "uploaded."

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You may not realize it, however my comment addresses one aspect of the whole solution.  Instead of duplicating the correct answer, I only gave the information that was needed to clear up the misperception.  I'm afraid you do not understand fully why it's important to address such.  In any case...

     

    If a person wants to have iTunes Match their songs then match may be the way to go...however if a person wants to upload all their songs, not be hassled with matching, and listen to their music the way it already is perhaps without tinkering around with it, then Google Play may be the way to go.

     

    If I have helped to solve the problem, or if I have solve the problem, please remember to designate this post as such.

  • Edward_C Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sometimes it takes pieces to make a whole, in this case not all the pieces where there, and I added what was not stated in order to make the solution whole.