[Battery]-About Meaning of Cycle and the Way of Charging

Dear Apple support team/Experienced users,


I have a macbook pro 13" version Middle 2012 a question about the meaning of cycle term of battery in macbook pro.

After reading manual and refer to information on the internet, here is my understanding about cycle term.


* After using all the power of battery, then charging fully, it is a cycle.

* Cycle also means:

1/ Firstly, battery level is 100%. (On Monday)

2/ Secondly, use battery to the level 50%. (On Monday)

3/ Thirdly, recharge macbook pro to the level 100%. (On Monday)

4/ Do from step 1 to step 3 for the next day. (On Tuesday)

After receving level 100% on this day(On Tuesday) , we made one cycle.


The more cycle we can do, the worse battery life we can get.

So i have a question related to the way of charging and creating cycle.

Example:

1/ On Monday, i have battery level at 100% (From the first day of current month)

2/ Then i use to battery level 50%

3/ After that i charge the battery to level 98% (not up to 100%)

4/ Do from step 2 to step 3 until the end of current month.

5/ On the first day of next month, i use all power of battery. Then i let my macbook pro sleep up to 5 hours.

After that i do fully charge for macbook pro.

At this time, i made a cycle for my battery.


Would you please give me your idea about the way of understanding about the cycle i had up to now?

I am looking forward to seeing your replies as soon as possible.

Once again, thanks for your reviewing my question, dear sirs/madams.


Best regards,

Newbietomac84

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Feb 11, 2013 5:15 PM

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Feb 11, 2013 5:25 PM in response to newbietomac84

Battery cycles are very simple - the cycle count is the number of full discharge/charge cycles the battery has had. Partial discharge/charge counts as a fraction of a cycle. That is, discharge to 50% and fully charge is one half cycle.


Don't fixate on the cycle count. You want to use the portable device, or you would not have bought a portable computer. For the best battery life, do not discharge all the way. Studies show that the best compromise between cycle life and usage is for discharging to about 50% and then recharging. That gives a cycle-lifetime about four to five times what you will get from fully discharging the battery for every cycle.

Feb 11, 2013 5:43 PM in response to Ralph Landry1

Thanks for your reply, actually i really want to check is my understanding correct or not. This question origins from the last time i charge my macbook pro (one time is from the time i received my laptop, just few days ago; one time when i used battery to level 60% and recharged it, and last time when i reach to level 63% of battery).

Then i check cycle count in system information part and realize that it is up from the number 3.

I was really surprised about this, because at first time when i searched from the internet, if i used it all power of battery, do fully charge, it means one cycle i did. But after seeing the cycle count, i really want to check my understanding about the true meaning of cycle and about the way of charging i need to do in the future, if i want to keep my battery a better life.

Once again, thanks for your reply, dear sir.

Feb 11, 2013 5:48 PM in response to newbietomac84

Depending on exactly how deeply the battery discharged/charged and the roundoff used to get a whole cycle number that is not a bad number. And, in perspective, with a projected cycle life of 1,000 cycles, you will have to wait a very long time to wearout that battery.


There is much more useful information about a battery than the cycle count...if you click the apple in the left corner of the menu bar, About This Mac, More Info, System Report, Hardware, Power you can get the cycle count, battery condition (should be normal), charge remaining and charge capacity (the ratio is the percentage charge on the battery), and voltage in milli-volts...move the decimel three places to the left for volts.


While the targe voltage for most MacBooks is about 12 or 12.3 volts, anywhere in the 11 to almost 13 volts range is fine.


There is a lot of information already available in the system report but, again, don't worry about it unless something is not performing correctly. Then start searching for a cause.

Feb 11, 2013 6:07 PM in response to Ralph Landry1

Dear sir,

First of all, thank you for your reply so quickly.

Actually, as you said and as other documents from Apple said, those are the way of checking battery health.

As i knew, it is just only the way of checking, not the good way of keeping battery a better life.

When i read information from the internet and apple forums, up to now, i have not seen the information about the way of keeping battery in detail and more clearly yet. I means at least we need a formular to keep or charge battery in some cases.So that is the reason why i must write my thought in detail about the way of charging battery and about my way of understanding about the cycle, which was written at Apple site and other website for battery of Macbooks.

Once again, thank you for you reply, dear sir.

Feb 11, 2013 6:40 PM in response to Csound1

Dear sir,


Thank you for reply.

When i read your reply, i can figure out one situation as below:

Example: (We are having 100% battery firstly)

1/ On Monday morning, i use battery to level 50%.

2/ On Monday afternoon, i charge battery to level 80% and use to 50%. (Charged 30%)

3/ On Monday evening, i charge battery to level 90% and use to 50%. (Charged 40%)

4/ On Tuesday morning, i charge battery to level 80%.(Charged 30%).


So at this time, i totally charged 100% althought i did not fully charge to the number 100%.

Is my understanding about your saying correct, dear sir?

I am looking forward to seeing your reply as soon as possible.

Besides that, if anyone else realize that my thought is not good, please give me your idea.


Once again, thank you so much, dear Mr.Csound1

Feb 11, 2013 7:05 PM in response to Network 23

Dear sir,


Thanks for your reply.

Your saying make me set my mind at rest on battery issue. But i also wait for the reply from Mr.Csound1 or other people who has the same thought.


Because if his saying is correct, maybe i should not need to care about the way of charging, but keep its level not to reach 0% (maybe 10% for more safely than 1%).

Because at that time, according to his information, i understand that battery chip is counting the percentage of charging, and at the time the total number of charge is come to 100%, it will increase count number by 1 and take care of counting charge level by its self again.

Example:

(First time of charge is 50%(from level 50% to 100%); second time of charge is 30%(from level 50% to 80%); third time of charge is 20%(from level 50% to 70%))

=> Total number reached to 100% and battery chip will increase count number by 1

=> Battery chip will start to check percentage of charging for next time as it made before. (start checking charge number from level 0%)


In case of his saying is not correct (confirmed by other people here), i will keep continue charging battery as written before in my first post (also same as your encouragement).


Once again, thank you for your reply dear Mr.Network 23.

Feb 11, 2013 7:30 PM in response to Csound1

Csound1 wrote:


You are charged to 100% only when the battery is fully charged, if you discharge it to 50% and then recharge to 100% that is half a cycle, do it twice and it is one cycle.


So you means that until battery level reach to 100%, if its charged level is between 50% and 100%, and keep that status day by day, the cycle count will not increase.

If my thought is not correct, would you please give me more advices, dear sir.


Once again, thank you for your replying.

Feb 11, 2013 7:30 PM in response to newbietomac84

newbietomac84 wrote:


You are charged to 100% only when the battery is fully charged, if you discharge it to 50% and then recharge to 100% that is half a cycle, do it twice and it is one cycle.


So you means that until battery level reach to 100%, if its charged level is between 50% and 100%, and keep that status day by day, the cycle count will not increase.

If my thought is not correct, would you please give me more advices, dear sir.


Once again, thank you for your replying.

No, the process is cumulative. You are way overthinking this.


When you can plug it in, do so. When you can't, well you can't.


The only thing to avoid is discharging near to zero, when possible recharge before it gets under 20%, preferably 40%

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