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can you make an mp4 with closed captioning?

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cougars89 Calculating status...
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Feb 12, 2013 9:34 AM

I'm trying to make a MP4 with Closed Captioning SCC file to be used for online viewing.  I've tried making the mp4 and attaching the SCC file in compressor and it does not attach the SCC file.  When I chose MP4 and then go to inspector and change the format to h.264 it will attach the SCC file.  The problem with that is the file size is to large to load for our platform we use.

 

In my timeline, I can export QT conversion and choose mp4 as my file format and then choose h.264 as my video format.  This works well with  the education platform our teachers use,  but it does not give me the option to attach a SCC close captioning file.

 

SO,  Where can I make an mp4 with a h.264 video format and attach a SCC closed captioning file in FCP, Compressor, QT or ??? without downloading a 3rd party software.  Is there a work flow I'm not getting?

 

Thanks for your time

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,925 points)
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    Feb 12, 2013 10:25 AM (in response to cougars89)

    I don't see why not, but I don't have an SCC to test. Here is a tutorial in which the instructor uses both an MPEG2 and an m4v file (Apple's MP4). Also, if I start with an MP4 preset, it does give me a choose Close Caption File option.

     

    Russ

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,925 points)
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    Feb 12, 2013 12:36 PM (in response to cougars89)

    I'll try to test this later since I'm not at a computer. If you absolutely need mp4 you. Could always bake in the CC in a mov and make that into an mp4.

     

    Russ

  • Grapevine Graphics Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 12, 2013 1:56 PM (in response to Russ H)

    In my limited experience, the only way I successfully embedded closed captioning (for broadcast) was in a m2v wrapper in compressor. I had to use very specific settings, which I don't have available right at this moment, but that was the only one that worked good enough.

     

    Jb

     

    Oh, and a good way to test is to use VLC

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,925 points)
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    Feb 12, 2013 5:48 PM (in response to cougars89)

    Sorry not to be more responsive, but we've had a bit of weather in this part of the world and in past 3 days I've paid more attention to  shoveling, cutting up trees, and raking snow off roofs than to video compression.

     

    If you can't do mp4 with CC, I would again suggest baking in the CC to a .mov file and bringing that back in to Compressor to make an mp4.

     

    Russ

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,925 points)
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    Feb 13, 2013 8:41 AM (in response to cougars89)

    cougars89 wrote:

     

    if I understan baking in the cc correctly which is taking a qt file that works with cc and putting it into compressor and exporting out a mp4 file.  OR did you mean making text that is on all the time  like a name graphic and there is no .scc file embeded into the file.?

    I think the answer is yes to all of the above. Put another way…

     

    I meant encode the mov with the closed caption file as a single self contained .mov (presumably h.264).


    Then use that new mov as a source file and output your MP4. 

     

    Russ

  • Russ H Level 6 Level 6 (12,925 points)
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    Feb 13, 2013 9:18 AM (in response to cougars89)

    Sorry not to have been more clear in the first place and then apparently misunderstandng your follow-up.

     

    If you match up the SCC with the MOV file and encode it as a .MOV, hopefully that works and you have a MOV with CC.  Since you need MP4, you should be able to run that MOV file through Compressor and output an MP4.

     

    Russ

  • Grapevine Graphics Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 13, 2013 9:23 AM (in response to cougars89)

    If you can successfully create a MOV w/captioning, I guess you could try to use Handbrake as an alternative to transcode it to an MP4, just make sure you choose the subtitle track in the options.

     

    Jb

  • Grapevine Graphics Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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    Feb 13, 2013 9:24 AM (in response to cougars89)

    I guess you could try to use Handbrake as an alternative to transcode it to an MP4, just make sure you choose the subtitle track in the options.

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