jackfromdenver

Q: I am ready to dump mountain lion and go back to snow leopard

Can someone stop me? I am so frustrated with lion and now mountain lion that I am actually looking at dumping the OS X 10.8 and reverting back to snow leopard.

 

I have a small office with three mac machines. I have been a fan of the macs for many years, even though we have software for enigineering that requires a windows versions. I have several issues that will not go away on each machine. I have a table below that describes a few of the problems. These problems have left me and my staff with no trust that our work is safe (yes, we do backups and TM). Our work flow is no longer fluid or fun with mountain lion.

 

Machine
OS X issues
Macbook 2009 5,0 running 10.7.3Graphics problems, extremely slow performance opening and closing files.
Macbook Pro mid 2009, 5,1 now testing 10.8.3 betaGraphics problems, dropped WIFI, time machine corruption, very slow finder performance, CUDA performance issues, loads of lsboxd issues, spotlite runs indexing alot, Sync services still broken in mountain lion. Cannot keep the Adobe licensing for Creative Suite 4 activated. Fresh install of 10.8.2
Macbook Pro Late 2011, running 10.8.2Graphics problems, flash problems, kernel panics after sleep, Kernel panics with VM Ware fusion 5.0.2, Memory relase issues after software quits, Very slow finder performance, Safari causes kernel panics. Any panic causes multiple versions of Office for mac 2011 autosaved files from one original file., spotlite indexing issues. Sync services still broken in mountain lion. Fresh install of 10.8.2

 

I am normally a good troubleshooter and have resolved many issues so far. But they just cntiue and I am spending a lot of time resolving problems with the machine's OS that I could be using for productivity. I guess I feel like the old days as an engineer in an office where windows requires a near constant windows administrator.

 

Is this just me whining? Is anyone else suffering through the OS X 10.7 and 10.8 issues?

 

Somebady tell me I am crazy... I just want to get back to work.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), mid 2009 15 inch MBP

Posted on Feb 16, 2013 12:39 PM

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  • by tikitman,

    tikitman tikitman Mar 28, 2013 3:20 PM in response to jackfromdenver
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:20 PM in response to jackfromdenver

    No use checking one thing at a time, its all of it, all the time. Its just a dog, shoulda been called "Cougar". I have used OS since the early 90's, this is the worst yet. *** are you guys doing, "Jobsie" woulda got it right, fix this crap.

     

    You can reinstall forever, its the OS not ready for prime time, i think Bill Gates' investment musta reached maturity (Hence the "Cougar" thingie).

     

    Tired of:

     

    Finder (Not responding) - that is when its sorry as kinda finds itself!

    Photoshop (Not responding)

    InDesign (Not responding)

    Illustrator (Not responding)

    Acrobat (Not responding)

    Safari (Not responding)

    Bridge (Not responding)

    iTunes (Not responding)

    iPhoto (Not responding)

    Word (Not responding)

    Entoruage (Not responding)

    Dreamweaver (Not responding)

     

    I have screen shots of all these (Not responding) at the same time.

     

    And, well... Mac tech support (Not responding)!!!!

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Mar 28, 2013 3:33 PM in response to tikitman
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:33 PM in response to tikitman

    I don't have any problems with these:

    Finder (Not responding) - that is when its sorry as kinda finds itself!

    Safari (Not responding)

    iTunes (Not responding)

    iPhoto (Not responding)

    Word (Not responding)

    I don't have these installed:

    Photoshop (Not responding)

    InDesign (Not responding)

    Illustrator (Not responding)

    Acrobat (Not responding)

    Bridge (Not responding)

    Dreamweaver (Not responding)

    Perhaps it's Adobe.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 28, 2013 3:34 PM in response to tikitman
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:34 PM in response to tikitman

    tikitman wrote:

     

    No use checking one thing at a time, its all of it, all the time. Its just a dog, shoulda been called "Cougar". I have used OS since the early 90's, this is the worst yet. *** are you guys doing, "Jobsie" woulda got it right, fix this crap.

     

    You can reinstall forever, its the OS not ready for prime time, i think Bill Gates' investment musta reached maturity (Hence the "Cougar" thingie).

     

    Tired of:

     

    Finder (Not responding) - that is when its sorry as kinda finds itself!

    Photoshop (Not responding)

    InDesign (Not responding)

    Illustrator (Not responding)

    Acrobat (Not responding)

    Safari (Not responding)

    Bridge (Not responding)

    iTunes (Not responding)

    iPhoto (Not responding)

    Word (Not responding)

    Entoruage (Not responding)

    Dreamweaver (Not responding)

     

    I have screen shots of all these (Not responding) at the same time.

     

    And, well... Mac tech support (Not responding)!!!!

    Start your own thread. Your problems have nothing to do with the op's and will only cause confusion here. If I were you (luckily I am not) I would do a complete reinstall and then come back here and open a new post to troubleshoot if it doesn't help.

     

    Pete

  • by tikitman,

    tikitman tikitman Mar 28, 2013 3:41 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:41 PM in response to petermac87

    thnx Pete, sorry i mentioned it, really. Don't have time for threads, got a job to do.

     

    no disrepect. thnx man!

     

    Joe

  • by tikitman,

    tikitman tikitman Mar 28, 2013 3:43 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:43 PM in response to Barney-15E

    I highly doubt it, could be anything.

     

    thnx.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 28, 2013 3:46 PM in response to tikitman
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    Mar 28, 2013 3:46 PM in response to tikitman

    tikitman wrote:

     

    thnx Pete, sorry i mentioned it, really. Don't have time for threads, got a job to do.

     

    no disrepect. thnx man!

     

    Joe

    Why would you want to own a non-functioning computer? Take it to your local Apple Store and let them deal with it.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by tikitman,

    tikitman tikitman Mar 28, 2013 4:33 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 28, 2013 4:33 PM in response to petermac87

    Pete, this mac has functioned relentlessly for over 12 months. The only thing that changed was Mountian Lion!

     

    And it still functions, not like it used to, why the change in work ethic for the OS. Its frustrating to go backwards in productivity. This is not the future, i hope! It will take some getting used to, not what i expected at all.

     

    Google the dissatisfied Mountain Lion power users.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 28, 2013 5:46 PM in response to tikitman
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    Mar 28, 2013 5:46 PM in response to tikitman

    Then shouldn't everyone be having problems? And not just the tiny percentage of users who come to these sites?

     

    Pete

  • by jackfromdenver,

    jackfromdenver jackfromdenver Mar 31, 2013 10:34 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 31, 2013 10:34 PM in response to petermac87

    Pete, the metrics and number of problems associated with 10.8 are much higher than other OS releases for a long time.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 31, 2013 10:38 PM in response to jackfromdenver
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    Mar 31, 2013 10:38 PM in response to jackfromdenver

    jackfromdenver wrote:

     

    Pete, the metrics and number of problems associated with 10.8 are much higher than other OS releases for a long time.

    Links and figures, please.

     

    Thanks

     

    Pete

  • by jackfromdenver,

    jackfromdenver jackfromdenver Mar 31, 2013 10:54 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 31, 2013 10:54 PM in response to petermac87

    In fact here are the mumbers and does not count any developer requests or bug reports as those are under NDA.

     

    OS X versionRelease dateMonths since releasePublic support requestsTime outrequests /month
    10.87/25/128.004580985726.125
    10.77/20/1121.0065010213095.714286
    10.68/28/0944.00100327442280.159091
  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 31, 2013 11:00 PM in response to jackfromdenver
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    Mar 31, 2013 11:00 PM in response to jackfromdenver

    jackfromdenver wrote:

     

    In fact here are the mumbers and does not count any developer requests or bug reports as those are under NDA.

     

    OS X versionRelease dateMonths since releasePublic support requestsTime outrequests /month
    10.87/25/128.004580985726.125
    10.77/20/1121.0065010213095.714286
    10.68/28/0944.00100327442280.159091

    Looks Ok to me for an 8 month old release, considering the adjustment time at the implementation of any OSX in the past. You will also notice how the majority ofsupport requests occur in the early stages of release. Now look at how many times ML has been downloaded compared to any other OSX.

     

    Pete

  • by daddyray,

    daddyray daddyray Apr 1, 2013 7:19 AM in response to jackfromdenver
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    Apr 1, 2013 7:19 AM in response to jackfromdenver

    Do what I did. I downloaded as much stuff as I could including my mail files, Photos, time machine backups and anything else I could think of. I then setup an appt. with the genuis bar at my Apple store and they reinstalled Snow Leopard for me gettting rid of mountain lion once and for all from my computer.  I could have done this myself but they were able to do it for me in alot  less time and without taking time away from other people at the genuis bar.

    THe only problem I have is some of the stuff I saved from mountain lion will not open in Snow Leopard. Anything you save from mountain lion try and save it in a format that Snow Leopard will open.

    I hope this helps.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Apr 1, 2013 12:46 PM in response to daddyray
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    Apr 1, 2013 12:46 PM in response to daddyray

    Macs from the last two years do not support Snow Leopard. And why would I want to do that? I have five Macs all flying along super under ML! Like many many millions of other users. Try fixing your issues.

     

    Hope this helps

     

    Pete

  • by daddyray,

    daddyray daddyray Apr 1, 2013 3:22 PM in response to petermac87
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    Apr 1, 2013 3:22 PM in response to petermac87

    Concidering he didn't say how old his computer was what I said would work. Just because you think you know it all you do not. the last comment of try fixing your issues is stupid as I have fixed my issue and it had nothing to do with YOU. You sound like you enjoy being condesiding to people you talk to. I was not even expecting you to say anythig to me. Of course this is why I do not come on here and try to ask questions due to everyone I had dealt with on here are like you and like talkong down to people. There is no need for you to reply to this but I know you will because that is what you do.

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