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jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

Can someone stop me? I am so frustrated with lion and now mountain lion that I am actually looking at dumping the OS X 10.8 and reverting back to snow leopard.

 

I have a small office with three mac machines. I have been a fan of the macs for many years, even though we have software for enigineering that requires a windows versions. I have several issues that will not go away on each machine. I have a table below that describes a few of the problems. These problems have left me and my staff with no trust that our work is safe (yes, we do backups and TM). Our work flow is no longer fluid or fun with mountain lion.

 

Machine
OS X issues
Macbook 2009 5,0 running 10.7.3Graphics problems, extremely slow performance opening and closing files.
Macbook Pro mid 2009, 5,1 now testing 10.8.3 betaGraphics problems, dropped WIFI, time machine corruption, very slow finder performance, CUDA performance issues, loads of lsboxd issues, spotlite runs indexing alot, Sync services still broken in mountain lion. Cannot keep the Adobe licensing for Creative Suite 4 activated. Fresh install of 10.8.2
Macbook Pro Late 2011, running 10.8.2Graphics problems, flash problems, kernel panics after sleep, Kernel panics with VM Ware fusion 5.0.2, Memory relase issues after software quits, Very slow finder performance, Safari causes kernel panics. Any panic causes multiple versions of Office for mac 2011 autosaved files from one original file., spotlite indexing issues. Sync services still broken in mountain lion. Fresh install of 10.8.2

 

I am normally a good troubleshooter and have resolved many issues so far. But they just cntiue and I am spending a lot of time resolving problems with the machine's OS that I could be using for productivity. I guess I feel like the old days as an engineer in an office where windows requires a near constant windows administrator.

 

Is this just me whining? Is anyone else suffering through the OS X 10.7 and 10.8 issues?

 

Somebady tell me I am crazy... I just want to get back to work.


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7), mid 2009 15 inch MBP
  • Linc Davis Level 10 (192,325 points)

    If you actually want help with your problems, you're going to have take one at time, search this site for answered questions similar to yours, and if you don't find anything useful, start a new thread with a descriptive title in the most appropriate forum. Your experiences are not typical.

  • Matthew Morgan Level 7 (22,595 points)

    I'd also get that 10.8.3 out of the equation.

     

    You absoultley should not be using an OS beta in an enterprise/mission critical production environment.

     

    That's just asking for unwanted problems.

     

    Matt

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    Greetings Eric, this is a nice compilation and thank you for your effort. I will look at each item for applicability I have to tell you I am not new to these problems and have been doing the maintenace on the manchines for a long time. I often use these tactics to resolve problems. Your effort is not lost on me. It is jsut that I have done most all of these solutions over the last two years. Some work and some items would help for a while, then come back. I'll give it a go and let you know. Thanks for your support.

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    Linc, I know this is more of a plea for help then an actual question. Thanks for your patience. I have read and followed your help with many other problems I have incurred over the last could of years. As you answer the some message thread from others that have been having similar. I'll start with the first item which is the kernel panics and go from there.

     

    I would challenge your notion that these problems are not typical. On second thought you might jhave to define typical.

     

    I know the problems I have faced are prolifically documented throughout this site and others. A few people in the threads get some relief but most users keep the hopeful phrase " Maybe in the next version". I am just tiered of serching endlessly for solutions to incomplete and sometmes broken OS X items, only to repeat the search for another mac or macbook.

     

    Yesterday, I even had one user who could not print to a USB HP P1006 printer. Really...

     

    Onxy is my friend too.

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    Matthew, I agree that beta is no place for production. I have had to use the beta as the Nvidia drivers in 10.8.2 were vere problematic on that machine, which a has Nvidia 9400m Video card. I have a dev license and know when there have been certain changes in the OS build. So in this case it has helped. Apple has just seeded 10.8.3 12D68 and it has many video updates that make the graphics at least usable. I really pity the ones with ATI cards...

     

    So, That machine is going to stay 10.8.3 or I'll rebuild in back to Snow Leopard. I would not have much choice but to rebuild it, even if I were to roll back to 10.8.2.

     

    Thanks for your patience too.

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    I'll start to post the ssues in ther posts as this could confuse others looking for solutions to specific problems.

  • dbaio Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi, I can confirm this:

     

    Macbook Pro Late 2011, running 10.8.2Graphics problems, flash problems, kernel panics after sleep, Kernel panics with VM Ware fusion 5.0.2, Memory relase issues after software quits, Very slow finder performance, Safari causes kernel panics. Any panic causes multiple versions of Office for mac 2011 autosaved files from one original file., spotlite indexing issues. Sync services still broken in mountain lion. Fresh install of 10.8.2

     

    The kernel panics after sleep is bothering me a lot.

     

    Every time that freezes, the update  "MacBook Pro SMC Firmware Update 1.7" shows again.

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    I have not applied SMC firware Update 1.7. Have you applied it? Maybe I should.

     

    On a another discussion I started Linc Davis suggested I uninstall Boom (sound volume amplifier software) to see if that helps. I have done so on one machine and the others to follow. I may reinstall it to see if the problems come back or if it is the fact I moved on to a different version of Mountain Lion and did not install it again.

  • dwb Level 7 (22,600 points)

    So much of this grocery list sounds like upgrade issues. Of all the upgrades I did of my own managerie and that of families, I had two disastrous upgrades and after erasing the drive, installing ML again and migrating (using Setup Assistant) I wound up with 2 more purring kittens. Have you done this? For that matter, have you performed a clean install of Mountain Lion and tested each computer without restoring accounts and applications? You may have some old code, a plug in or driver, that keeps getting restored each time you start over. With Lion I had exactly that issue on my 2009 MBP and it wasn't until I totally installed all my software one by one that I realized what it was that caused my problems.

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    Uninstalling Boom on the 2011 13" MBP has not helped it with Kernel panics. So I have no solution for these problems, yet. 

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    I would agree with you on some of my other machines which were migrated. But this is also happening on a new 2011 MBP built from scratch on ML 10.8.2. New machine, new user, new OS, no migration. The only move made from another directory was an import of outlook.pst through Outlook for Mac 2011, and a directory of My documents from a NAS into Documents. That is all.

  • dwb Level 7 (22,600 points)

    A 2011 MBP that has a clean install of 10.8 (drive erased and OS installed) with up to date software installed and not migrated that is having kernel panics either has hardware issues or an OS installation that went awry. Have you run the long hardware diagnostics?

  • jackfromdenver Level 1 (5 points)

    dear dwb, Thank you for your suggestion. I have not conducted a long hardware test. I think that is a good idea. I will say now that 10.8.3 is installed it is running much better. I am stressing it now and will find time to conduct a long hardware test. I may use Alt +D to login to an internet boot to run the test. Will report back, thanks for your help!

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