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Duplicate Project error (run out of disk memory)

OS 10.7.5, FCP X 10.0.7, Retina Display MacBook Pro

Internal SSD of 500 GB with 337 GB available

RAM 16 GB


Project is about 35 minutes of 1080p video plus music


Try to 'Duplicate Project' from USB 3.0 Drive (2 TB with 830 GB available)

to a 6 TB Thunderbolt drive with 4TB available. Trying to move everything over as it will be an archive.


When I try to Duplicate Project, it runs for a while saying it is processing the files and the available space on the internal SSD decreases and then an errro message pops up that says the SSD is out of space, although get info says it has 273GB of space.




Two questions

1. What is happening?

2. Can I reconfigure FCPX to look at another drive so it does not use the internal SSD?

3. Is there a work around solution?

Posted on Feb 20, 2013 6:37 AM

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Feb 20, 2013 7:49 AM in response to e2photo

e2photo wrote:


OS 10.7.5, FCP X 10.0.7, Retina Display MacBook Pro

Internal SSD of 500 GB with 337 GB available

RAM 16 GB


Project is about 35 minutes of 1080p video plus music


Try to 'Duplicate Project' from USB 3.0 Drive (2 TB with 830 GB available)

to a 6 TB Thunderbolt drive with 4TB available. Trying to move everything over as it will be an archive.


When I try to Duplicate Project, it runs for a while saying it is processing the files and the available space on the internal SSD decreases and then an errro message pops up that says the SSD is out of space, although get info says it has 273GB of space.




Two questions

1. What is happening?

2. Can I reconfigure FCPX to look at another drive so it does not use the internal SSD?

3. Is there a work around solution?

1 = You are running out of Disk Memory

Reasons for that:

1 = You have "Include Render Files" checked with the "Duplicate Project Only" option

2 = You have chosen a drive that does not have enough space to accommodate the size of the project


2 = YES.... In Duplicate Project dialog - right under the "New Project Name" there is a drop-down menu called "Location" there you can choose which disk to store on


3 = See point 1 & 2 ;-)))

Feb 20, 2013 8:28 AM in response to e2photo

e2photo wrote:


Re-Studio Engineer

Item 2-No... it has 4TB available and why is memory decreasing on the SSD?



I dont know... hard for me to see what you are doing there ;-) (Post a video, perhaps)


The "Render" files have nothing to with event files... If you want to consolidate the Event & Project to another disk do this:


Select the "Duplicate Project & Used Clips" or "Duplicate Project and Referenced Events" and then choose the right location from the drop down. It works.. At least I did one as recent as yesterday ;-)


The Manual provides a good scope on the Project Duplication Options

Feb 20, 2013 1:25 PM in response to Studio Engineer

Here is a second set


The top right is the info for

Macintosh HD Available 111GB

Movie Desk 1-Available 3.75 TB


A few minutes later

Macintosh HD Availble 87.37

Movie Desk 1- Available 3.75


For Movie Desk 1, you can also see used amount which has not changed appreciably


The bottom picture show

Macintosh HD available 7.42

Movie Desk 1-Available 3.75, but amount used has started to go up...BUT FCPX crashes


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Feb 20, 2013 1:42 PM in response to e2photo

in the permissions panel of the big drive it says fetching...... Does it ever fetch the group date (under stevenseelig)


Reason I ask is that perhaps some permission on the drive got corrupted which would prevent FCPx from writing to it and perhaps making it default to the MacHD...



Try quittin FCPx and and set the permissions on the big drive to "ignore ownership on this volume"

(you need to tick the little check box underneath the permissions pane)



ALSO --- Do you have another drive you could check with... Just to make sure the drive is not weird....


Perhaps there is a bug in FCPx preventing from writing to a RAID (Given the nature of 6GB I am assuming it is a RAID)

Feb 20, 2013 2:12 PM in response to Studio Engineer

An additional tidbit


On my Macintosh HD drive there are a huge number swapfiles each of which are 1.07GB plus a sleepimage file.

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As I am sitting here, the computer is slowly deleting these swapfiles


So I Forced Quit FCPX, and reopened it. There appeared an event 'Camp Jabulani" and there was a Project 'Camp Jabulani' which appeared fine, except when I ejected the disk I was moving the project from (called Mobile 22), and then the files went missing. Inspection of the Event file showed it was all pointers and when I plugged the Mobile 22 backin, everything seemed fine.


I then chose Consolidate Project Media. FCXP created a new event called 'Camp Jabulani (fcp1) and is in the process of moving all the files over to the Movie Desk 1.


When it is done, I will test the concepts

1. Ignore ownership

2. Name change.


Immediately before FCPX crashed, it had started to write to the Movie Desk 1 drive.. perhaps it wrote as much as 2-4GB of data.

Feb 21, 2013 1:55 AM in response to e2photo

The sleepimage file is a copy of your memory that gets written to the drive to allow your mac to deep sleep (sometimes called "hibernate"). If you set your mac not to hibernate, you can the reclaim that space.

(in regular sleep, your mac still has to use a little bit of energy to keep your ram contents "alive"; in deep sleep, your ram contents are written out to the sleepimage file, and get read back on wake from sleep; this is why sometimes a mac takes a while to go to sleep, especially if it has a slow HD and a lot of RAM; this is also why some people, like me, choose to disable it, although arguably it may be "safer").


The real BIG question here is why you have all these swap files. This suggest that your real RAM gets used up, so your mac is swapping out to virtual memory - which is what is *really* using up your SSD space.


Try keeping Activity Monitor open and look at the values in the memory tab. (Activity Monitor is in /Applications/Utilities; or you can hit cmd-space to access spotligt and type ac <enter>)


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Feb 21, 2013 10:45 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

The problem is a checked 'Include Render Files' I believe.


So I have done a bit more work and the following seems to be true. I was trying to duplicate two different projects from a mobile drive (USB 3) to my long term storage 6TB Thunderbolt drive. Every time I tried to duplicate the project I would get lots of stuff placed on my internal SSD drive and eventually it would run out of memory and FCPX would stop/crash.


Today, I tried doing the 'Dupllicate Project' on both of these project BUT, I unchecked 'Include Render Files' In both cases, the duplication process has not written any files to my internal SSD and it has gone very smoothly! At the end of the duplication, I close FCPX, disconnect the mobile drive, and restart FCPX. Rendering of the duplicated project begins and it takes a few minutes depending on length of the movie, but once done, it seems to be retained.


So if there is a bug it is related to the routines effected by the 'Include Render Files'.

Duplicate Project error (run out of disk memory)

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