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GunnyFitz Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Feb 25, 2013 5:17 PM

Did my due diligence and conducted a search before submitting this question, and as expected saw the general responses.

I have owned Macbooks for at least 8 yrs without ANY type of anti virus / malware protection without any result so I agree with the masses that it is NOT a must for us lucky ones in the Mac community.

 

HOWEVER - I am a Federal Government employee who is now permitted to work from home and they REQUIRE that whatever operating system I decide to utilize to access my office PC via remote login MUST have some form of anti virus software installed on it. I just purchased the 2013 iMac desktop in a 27" display and was so excited to work from home on this, until hearing this news.

 

I need a no bs answer on the best anti virus software available for this precious unit that does not somehow conflict with anything else installed on it. I hear of iTunes lag issues, and all sorts of other crap happening after people install this stuff. They even gave me a free Kapersky anti virus disc for Mountain Lion when I bought the machine but even stated they dont recommend it (*** over?)

 

Can anyone please help me decide what to use in this issue since I truly wish to be granted this ability to telework 3-4 days a week here!!

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.1)
  • Eric Ross Level 6 Level 6 (11,650 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 5:21 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    You are correct no need for Anti-Virus software for Mac OS X, but this one is free and it has good ratings.  http://download.cnet.com/Avast-Free-Antivirus/3000-2239_4-75451160.html?tag=main ;pop

  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,055 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 5:29 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    GunnyFitz wrote:

     

    ...they REQUIRE that whatever operating system I decide to utilize to access my office PC via remote login MUST have some form of anti virus software installed on it.

     

    OS X already does:

     

    OS X: About Gatekeeper

     

    OS X Mountain Lion: Keep your Mac up to date

     

    OS X Mountain Lion: Protect your Mac from malware

     

    If they want to know what you have tell them it is Gatekeeper or Xprotect. Both are features of OS X.

     

    Do not install the Kaspersky junkware. ***, acknowledged.

     

    Do not install Avast either. It is both useless and notorious for false positives.

     

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  • michaelsip4 Level 2 Level 2 (300 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 6:07 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    speed read:

     

    http://www.reedcorner.net/mac-anti-virus-testing-01-2013/

     

    http://www.reedcorner.net/mmg-antivirus/

     

    If it is a push comes to shove go with intego (slight cost) keep away from cross overs (recent entrants) and norton alllegedly creates issues on mac's from time to time.

     

    make certain they can detect it !

  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,055 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 6:08 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    GunnyFitz wrote:

     

    The trouble is this. The system will not even let me connect thru the Fed portal unless it detects the AV software.

    Based on online reviews its said Intego and Norton are best for Mac?

     

    The Mac's built-in software firewall can do nothing more, if your Mac is already behind a router. Your router is a hardware firewall and preferable to anything else.  Of course it "pings" your system but all it can receive in response is an answer from your router. Everything behind it is hidden, unless you are using a VPN - are you?

     

    If your agency can "detect" AV software then it can also "detect" that you are using OS X. I highly doubt it can do either one. I use my Macs for secure government websites as well as highly secure Windows-centric corporate portals that require two-step authentication, and have yet to encounter any insurmountable obstacles.

     

    Intego and Norton a/k/a Symantec are even worse than the others in that they are both known to cause problems with Macs. Online reviews are all biased, without exception, and many are grievously fraudulent.

     

    If you have a burning need for a third party anti-virus utility that will probably placate the IT clowns in charge of this decision, use ClamXav. It is available from the App Store or directly from its developer. ClamXav is the only product that I know will cause no harm. It is free.

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  • Ralph Landry1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,785 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 6:26 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    There are so many AV programs it is hard to believe they can detect you don't have one...but if you feel ou must, stay something that works well and is not dangerous to your Mac...and that is ClamXAV.  Do not get Norton under any condition, it can cause serious damage to our operating system.

     

    If you are running a remote desktop through Citrix you will have no problems...there are a couple tricks to it if that is what you are doing.

  • Ralph Landry1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,785 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 6:41 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    If you have trouble connecting it could be due to the way you are configured...have downloaded and installed the latest Citrix Receiver?  If so talk to your IT people and be sure the are using the latest XenApp release...some agencies are not and the latest Citrix will not connect.  If you are using certificates, be sure they are installed in Keychain Access correctly.  Those are some starting points.

  • John Galt Level 7 Level 7 (33,055 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 6:49 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    OK, thanks. Microsoft's NAP is going to want to conduct a "health check" on its clients - what that means is it must receive a qualifying response, which may mean it will demand a Windows PC and nothing else will do. 

     

    Read the requirements here: NAP Requirements

     

    All is not lost - they may have already added an exception for Macs according to the following: Design an Exception Management Strategy. You won't know until you access the VPN and attempt to use the system.

     

    I recommend that you first to attempt to log in with their supplied VPN credentials and instructions. If you are unsuccessful, contact whoever supports the system and explain you are using a Mac incorporating the anti virus protection discussed. See if they are interested in implementing an exception according to the above. It can't possibly be the first time they heard the question.

     

    If you cannot communicate with anyone who lives beyond the Windows world, your last and least attractive solution may be to create a Boot Camp partition on your Mac, boot Windows for your agency work, and get used to having to constantly endeavor to keep Windows free from the ick that plagues it.


    ClamXav is here: Mac App Store

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  • Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10 (107,540 points)
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    Feb 25, 2013 7:15 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    The system will not even let me connect thru the Fed portal unless it detects the AV software

     

    Do you happen to know how it does that?

  • Ralph Landry1 Level 7 Level 7 (28,785 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 3:56 AM (in response to John Galt)

    Hi John, I still think Gunny needs to try again to remote connect, and if that fails talk to his IT folks and find out what version of XenApp Server they are running.

     

    I was trying to access my network using Moutain Lion/Safari/Citrix Receiver 11.7 and kept getting a failure.  After blaming ML/Safari and CR for not being compatible, searched the error messages and could not find anything indicating a problem on my end.  So, called Citrix about it and they said to download their XenApp Server specs and see what version was being run...CR 11.7 will not connect with a version two generations old.  So I then called a friend in IT and was told the version was three generations old and they are trying to get funding to upgrade...my info and report might help.

     

    So, the short story, the latest CR 11.7 will not connect with an old version of XenApp Server and having/not having AV software really doesn't make a difference.  Secure remote access is a very sensitive thing when dealing with agencies that don't put themoney into the latest software, and are so PC oriented they cannot even spell Mac.

  • MadMacs0 Level 4 Level 4 (3,320 points)
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    Feb 26, 2013 1:05 PM (in response to GunnyFitz)

    

    GunnyFitz wrote:

     

    Seems the CmaXAV is def one of them too which i am glad about!

    Actually, I'm not sure that it is as the heading says ClamWin which is a Windows product that uses the same ClamAV scanning engine (both are currently at version 0.97.6) as ClamXav, but the latter is now at version 2.2.4 and the versions listed are obsolete for ClamXav.  It looks like they are trying to let you use ClamXav, just that the information is totally borked.

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