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Mar 10, 2013 4:07 AM in response to Ken Spikerby dominic23,Clearing history?
Clearing history can clear history, empty caches and remove website icons.
Check the setting for clearing history.
Safari > Preferences > General > Remove history items:
Best.
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Mar 10, 2013 2:42 PM in response to dominic23by Ken Spiker,But I haven't cleared history lately. Thank you for you help, I think I should monitor this situation for a while to see if I can see any pattern and report back. I'll have to see if there's any event that correlates to the disappearance of the icons.
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Mar 15, 2013 8:28 AM in response to dominic23by Ken Spiker,I see there are settings under Safari Preferences for the history items. There is no item called Best, just the amount of time, one day, one week, one year. I think you're confusing that menu with something else.
Obviously, this is a bug. It is rather alarming to have such an obvious bug in Safari, but then Apple is not what it used to be. The only fix I can think of is to just never use the erase history feature. I will make a bug report.
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Mar 15, 2013 11:57 AM in response to Ken Spikerby Barry Hemphill,Hello:
What you describe is NOT a bug.
When you clear history manually, the favicons go. I don't like the feature either, but that is the way it is designed.
By the way, the "best" was that posters way of wishing you well....not a pointer to something.
Barry
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Mar 15, 2013 12:02 PM in response to Ken Spikerby Yves M,★HelpfulDisappearing Favicons upon clearing History is a bug that's been around since Safari 6.
And it has been often reported.
I was hoping that Apple would finally fix it in their recent 6.0.3.
But they haven't.
So I guess we will have to call this a "feature".
I was also hoping that 10.8.3 would fix this sloooowwww Shutdown problem that came along with 10.8.2.
But no.
Another new "feature", then !
YM
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Mar 15, 2013 12:14 PM in response to Barry Hemphillby Ken Spiker,I suppose you can make any bug go away by calling it a feature. I can't see any reason for this 'feature' to exist, so if it's intentional I can't possibly understand the intent behind it. But this is like a lot of features that have popped up with Lion and Mountain Lion which seem to me to be hindrances and obstacles and for which I can think of no reasonable explanation. (Eliminating Save As... is another one.)
But thank you for informing me, it helps to realize that this is a feature, not an accident, and I'll just have to forget about using Clear History in the future.
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Mar 15, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Ken Spikerby Yves M,★HelpfulKen
I agree with you : I can't see any reason for this "feature" to exist.
But let me tell you my secret :
I found a way to clear History AND keep my favicons at the same time.
Go to the History menu and select "Show all History".
Then select all of the History items and press Delete.
Your History will be cleared but all your favicons will remain !!!
Apple's new paradigm :
Why make it simple when you can make it complicated ...
Take care !
YM
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Mar 25, 2013 12:21 PM in response to Yves Mby antoniofaoro,For the slow shutdown, try this:
as root edit /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist
add two lines at the end (before </dict>)
before:
</array>
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<true/>
<key>UserName</key>
<string>_eppc</string>
</dict>
</plist>
after:
</array>
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<true/>
<key>UserName</key>
<string>_eppc</string>
<key>ExitTimeOut</key>
<integer>1</integer>
</dict>
</plist>
do not use 0, zero is interpreted as infinity
Save and reboot.
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Mar 28, 2013 8:43 AM in response to antoniofaoroby Yves M,Antonio
Thanks for the tip.
It didn't work ... but it works !!!
As prescribed, I modified this com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist on an external Clone of my internal Mountain Lion partition.
I then booted from the tweaked clone and found out that ... I couldn't Shut Down nor Restart anymore : selecting either one of these Apple Menu items did absolutely nothing, and I had to force-shutdown through the Power button.
I booted back from my internal partition (the one that hadn't been modified), and just decided to forget about the tweak, and to live on with this delayed shutdown glitch.
But when I shut down my iMac a few hours later, to my surprise, the shut down time was less than 2 seconds, as it was in the 10.8.1 times !
So I have to conclude that the tweak did work, even if it had been done on another partition (now disconnected from my computer).
Am I right in assuming that the modification of this com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist gets stored somewhere in hardware (PRAM or something) ? That would explain my System's new behavior.
Still mystified by the happy ending !
Thanks again !
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Mar 28, 2013 9:04 AM in response to antoniofaoroby Yves M,Correction !
Well, finally, it worked only once !
All back to "normal", now.
I have a few questions : you say "as root, edit ...".
- I merely edited a copy of this plist file on the Finder with Text Edit, and I then replaced the original on my external clone with this edited one, after the usual admin password entering.
- Should I have modified my clone's plist file instead of a copy of my internal's plist file ?
- Do you think that the fact that I didn't work as root is responsible for this non-restart / non-shutdown problem ?
(I have never activated my root account)
Thanks in advance !
YM
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Mar 28, 2013 10:33 AM in response to Yves Mby antoniofaoro,Yves,
Editing as root is essential. It's definitely the one to blame for the restart/shutdown problem. The same happened to me.
You can do the following:
- Open Terminal
- Type the command: cp /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist Desktop
- Edit it with Textedit and save on the Desktop
- Go back to Terminal
- Type the commands:
sudo su - (it wil ask your admin password)
cd /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/
cp /Users/username/Desktop/com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist
- If the system asks to replace the file, say Yes.
- Type ls -la com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist and see if the owner is root. Something like this:
-rw-r--r--@ 1 root wheel 655 Oct 15 12:59 com.apple.coreservices.appleevents.plist
Now it should work.
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Mar 29, 2013 3:55 AM in response to antoniofaoroby Yves M,Antonio
Did exactly what you prescribed.
But ... same effect : the Finder then seemed disabled. Many (if not all) menu items were non-responsive.
Had to force Shutdown.
No problem; I had a fresh backup. Everything working normally after a mere 5 minutes of retro-cloning.
Might I here praise Carbon Copy Cloner !!!
Just wondering if I had correctly added the proper lines suggested previously :
</array>
<key>RunAtLoad</key>
<true/>
<key>UserName</key>
<string>_eppc</string>
<key>ExitTimeOut</key>
<integer>1</integer>
</dict>
</plist>
Even checking "-rw-r--r--@ 1 root wheel ... " on the then modified plist proved a success in copying the file back to its parent folder.
I think Terminal and I don't go well together ...
Thanks anyways. Glad it worked for you !
YM
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Mar 29, 2013 5:34 AM in response to Yves Mby antoniofaoro,Yves,
Sorry to give such trouble. It's really wierd. I've done the same thing in three different macbooks and it's always worked. I understand you added just the lines in bold, right?
Regards,
AF.
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Mar 29, 2013 6:25 AM in response to antoniofaoroby Yves M,Antonio
I did indeed add the lines in bold only.
I read that you had success with three Macbooks.
Could it be that the Shutdown routines (or whatever) on an iMac are slightly different than those used for Macbooks ?
Just wondering.
YM