How do you Change the Tick Resolution?

HI Trevor,

Windows> transport>
open a transport window and
in the transport look to the little box just to the right of the BPM there is "meter" ( probably set at 4/4)
The number underneath that, is the tick adjust..
from 1/4 to /192..

Cheers,

Daniel



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No, you can't change the tick resolution.
It's fixed at 960 ticks per quarter note.

Correct..


Semantics..

I presumed he meant tick/nudge/ res.. 🙂

D

It depends on the division settings. For instance, if division is set to /16 you'll see the tick resolution of 1/16 notes, ie. 240. Try setting division (in the transport window) to /4. Then you'll see the resolution of 960.

240 is generally a 16th note.
if you really need a higher res., just double the tempo and double the bar length.
eg: what was originally say, 120bpm in 4/4.
would become 240 in 4/2 (or8/4). if you don't mind the score looking a little odd, it works.
to get less quant, use the quantise features in logics editors.

Does this mean that the resolution to which you can edit audio in the arrange window is subordinate to your tempo and meter settings? Please tell me there is a way around this.

11th,

Yes, audio editing resolution is determined by the tempo because the Arrange window does not provide for anything other than "MIDI" editing resolution (which is determined by the tempo). Another way of saying this is that the Arrange page does not provide for sample-accurate audio editing. The way to achieve sample-accurate editing is to open the sample editor and make your adjustments there.

The problem is... As much as I love the sample editor (it is my favourite window in logic I think) there is no undo. Is there no sample-accurate audio editing capacity in logic that is non-destructive?

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You're right, there is no UNDO for changing the start point of an audio file. I find this really annoying myself. It's an editing operation, no? So why no undo? Grrrr...

But there's a saving grace in that the start point of the audio file can be easily changed without affecting the anchor point by holding down OPT while you move the start point (you probably know that already). But moving the start point past the anchor is always a problem. And to work around this I've just gotten used to cutting the audio in the Arrange window after the point where I really want the audio to start; then I open the sample editor and, holding OPT, move my audio's start point to the left, ending at the point I really want it to be.

I guess I just have to get different software... I just checked the book and the audio window doesn't give you sample-accurate editing either (256 sample limit.) What I'm trying to do is remove individual cycles to get rid of a clip.

I need a sample-accurate, non-destructive audio editor that can also do customizable crossfades. The only one I have ever used is Sonic Solutions back in the day. Any recommendations? Peak, perhaps?

Thanks for the info. It is some kind of relief to know what is not possible with Logic. I will discontinue my efforts in achieving the impossible.

Here's my workaround for non-destructive sample-accurate audio editing in the arrange window:

Create a seperate region containing the edits you wish to make. (the smaller, the better.) Bounce this region to a new audio file. Open a new logic song. Before importing, change the tempo to 9999.0000, the meter to 4/1, and the division to 192. This results in a resolution of 31,996.8 ticks per second. Not quite 44.1, but enough to edit frequencies up to 16 kHz.

Depending on the length of the region, you may want to increase the length of the song to 536 measures, the longest at this meter. This gives you a maximum region length of just over 51 seconds. Set your Snap to ticks. Then, make you track settings, import, and snip away.

This gives you some undo and crossfades so you can audition and re-do your precise edits. When you are finished, bounce and re-import to your original song and replace the original region.

Note: On my system, I have about 5 seconds of playback before I get an error message relating to synchronizing audio and MIDI, but it's enough to audition the edit/fade.