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EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

I have an Imac 3G. I got it a few days ago. On the first try of booting it was loading OS 9.2 and crashed, restarted it and it gave the folder flashing icon, I got it to go onto the smiling mac icon but it got stuck on it, and just a few minutes ago, it stopped turning on. So, do you know if there is any hope and anything I should do?


iMac, Mac OS 9.2.x, Bondi blue.
  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    The most likely think is that the harddrive has gone bad.

     

    I'm guessing that this is a tray loading iMac. Not sure if it is worth replacing the hd.

     

    >but it just stay stuck with a question mark inside a folder

     

    The blinking question mark means that the firmware could not find a valid OS on your startup disk. The likeliest possibilities are your OS has become corrupted or the harddrive has failed.

     

    If you have a second Mac computer, you may want to try to copy over as many files you can. One way is to use target disk mode.

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661

    http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html

     

    Another way to recover any data on the harddrive, you can try removing the harddrive from your system and placing the harddrive in an external harddrive enclosure.  You may be able to read the data on a second computer.

     

    For slot loading machines... Try holding down the option key then power on. This brings up the startup manager. Click on your hd. Click on right arrow key.

     

    Sometimes if volumes don't appear in Startup Manager (what you get when you hold down the Option key at startup), you need to reset the Mac's PRAM, NVRAM, and Open Firmware. Shut down the Mac, then power it up, and before the screen lights up, quickly hold down the Command, Option, P, and R keys, until the Mac has chimed twice more after the powerup chime. Then, before the screen lights up, hold down Command-Option-O-F until the Open Firmware screen appears. Then enter these lines, pressing Return after each one:

     

    reset-nvram

    set-defaults

    reset-all

     

    "The reset-all command should restart your Mac. If so, you have successfully reset the Open Firmware settings."

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1812?viewlocale=en_US

     

    How to eject a cd from the internal cd drive:

    eject cd

     

    List of devices:

    devalias

     

    List of variables:

    printenv

     

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    Query by serial number

    Apple's warrenty database will identify the type of Mac you have.  Your serial number is securely sent, but you get only the name of your machine.

    https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do

     

    This site provides more information, but lacks security.

    "A serial number is a unique, identifying number or group of numbers and letters assigned to an individual piece of hardware or software. It's used for various things depending on the product / brand but what is your Mac's serial number for and more importantly... what is it hiding and what can it do for you ?"

    http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

  • digmpools Level 1 (0 points)

    Restart your computer holding down the apple key option key and the letter r and letter p

     

    Apple Key - Option Key - R - P  alll at the same time.  Wait till you hear 3 dings.....  then let go.

     

    Then goto Utilities and then disk utility.  Highlight your hard drive then verify hard drive on right side bottom window  then repair permission

    Can't hurt to try this

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    So I got it to turn on but it won't play the starting up tune, this is also my first mac and no one in my famil has one, the screen it gets stuck on is not the folder but the smiling picture of the original macintosh which usually indicates booting up but I have left this on for half an hour before to no avail. I don't know the difference between tray and slot loading but here is some more detail.

    It has 2 headphone slots on the front, an infa red thing, two speakers, on the side is a place for more wires,the keyboard and mouse I use are USB ones for a PC but still work I just don't know what some keys correspond to, I have no os disc and cannot afford one although if I really need one, I shall use money I get for my birthday to buy one.

  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    I don't know the difference between tray and slot loading but here is some more detail.

     

    Tray models have a button you need to push to get out a tray where you drop a cd.

     

    The slots loaders you push in the cd as you would on a car.

     

    Here is a picture of the orginal tray loader ports.

     

    Picture 4.png

     

    Here is a later tray model iMac g3 333.

    Picture 3.png

     

    The later slot loader added two firewire 400 ports.

  • Jan Hedlund Level 6 (9,720 points)

    As has been indicated above, resetting the PRAM would be one thing to try first.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379

     

    Also, a bad internal 3.6 V battery cannot be ruled out.

     

    http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/iMacG3_originalInstallGuide.PDF

     

    http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iMacG3_originalEmergencyHndbk.PDF

     

    Regarding key equivalents on a PC keyboard, the following web page could possibly be of interest.

     

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/970299

     

    Jan

  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    Using a windows keyboard is fine. 

     

    pc key board key is

     

    windows key is used for command key

    alt key is used for option / alt key

    control key is used for control key

     

     

    enter key is the return key

     

    other keys are in the same position but different names.  Few key maybe mission but are redundant/ not needed.

     

    Robert

     

     

     

    command + q would be windows key + q on a pc keyboard.

     

    Robert

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    Nothing has worked so far, I have tried all you ave told me but nothing works does anyone one have any idea what could be the problem, and does it matter what region Im in?

    Thanks to everyone who has replied, im glad to know people care.

    as i said its stuck on the mac picture, this one to be precise,http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m5hahNr08cY/TYv3J37ndOI/AAAAAAAAFJ4/L7-6clQcm2E/s1600/ PearPC%2B10.1%2Bboot%2Bhappy%2Bmac.png

    I have left on for 30 - 60 mins on this but to no avail.

    Please help if you can.

     

    Sebastian.

  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    You have not reported what type of iMac g3 this is. 

     

    Find the serial number and type into one of these sites.

     

     

    Query by serial number

    Apple's warrenty database will identify the type of Mac you have.  Your serial number is securely sent, but you get only the name of your machine.

    https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do

     

    This site provides more information, but lacks security.

    "A serial number is a unique, identifying number or group of numbers and letters assigned to an individual piece of hardware or software. It's used for various things depending on the product / brand but what is your Mac's serial number for and more importantly... what is it hiding and what can it do for you ?"

    http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

     

    or

    This site provides more information, but lacks security too.

    "A serial number is a unique, identifying number or group of numbers and letters assigned to an individual piece of hardware or software. It's used for various things depending on the product / brand but what is your Mac's serial number for and more importantly... what is it hiding and what can it do for you ?"

    http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php

    http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

       ( hint by K Shaffer  )

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    Its a original tray loader

     

    Sebastian.

  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    The image in this link:

    ,http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m5hahNr08cY/TYv3J37ndOI/AAAAAAAAFJ4/L7-6clQcm2E/s1600/ PearPC%2B10.1%2Bboot%2Bhappy%2Bmac.png

     

    indicate that your mac found an os on the hd.  It is booting up the os.  The os should boot in 1 to 3 minutes.

     

    Disconnnect all exteral usb devices from the machine.  Including keyboard & mouse.  poweroff machine. Poweron to boot.  Any luck?

     

    attach keyboard.  hold down shift key to do a safe boot.  Any luck?

     

    get a copy of mac os 8.6, 9.x, or 10.2 or 10.3.  Re-install Mac OS.

     

    Robert

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks for the tips,

    going to get mac osx 10.2 jaguar on the internet.

     

     

    Sebastian.

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    YES

    won a ebay auction for a copy of jaguar

    hope it arrives soon.

     

     

    Sebastian.

  • EVIL BR0NY Level 1 (0 points)

    It hasnt arrived but i wanted to ask

    can you jump from 9.2 straight to Mac OSX 10.2 or would i have to go Mac osx 10 mac osx 10.1 then 10.2

     

     

     

    Sebastian.

  • rccharles Level 5 (7,588 points)

    Yes, if you get the full install cd.  jaguar image.png

     

    It is best to update the firmware to the latest for a tray loading machine.

     

    What firmware do you need?

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1395

     

    For folks reading this post and have a slot loading machine; you must update the firmware to the lastest for your machine.

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