Where are EXS24 Factory Samples stored?

I am opening a LogicPro project I created a year ago, and the EXS24 sampler can't find several samples. It seems that several of the old Factory samples are no longer on my drive. I have done nothing to remove them. Could this have happened when upgrading to Mountain Lion and/or updating LogicPro?


Do I need to reinstall everything from the original Logic Studio DVD's?


I am also a little confused about where EXS24 presets are stored - or should be stored. I seem to lose contact with them quite often.


And also, when I go to Preferences in EXS24 and set "search samples" to "All volumes", save my project, quit Logic, open any project again - the setting is always back to "Local volume". I tried to delete LogicPro prefs etc. in Finder, but the problem is still there.


Any help is welcome!

iMac 27 inch 2.8 GHz Intel Core i5, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Mar 12, 2013 4:22 PM

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Mar 12, 2013 6:45 PM in response to Helge Krabye

They can be stored in different places depending on what they are a part of... Some are a part of GB for example and some are part of the default Logic install.. and some are stored with the Jam Packs...


To check if one is really missing or not, I use FindAnyFile which can be obtained from this link...


http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/


There are two versions.. one on the App Store and one from the link above, which is the one I'd recommend..


You can obtain the same sort of results via Finder and it's search features if you know how to properly set things up... but I find that FAF is much simplier to use and quicker....


Hope this helps..

Mar 12, 2013 6:58 PM in response to Helge Krabye

Part 2:


Once you have identified if the files are missing or not (and the likelyhood is that they are not....)


I would try rebuilding Spotlight's indexes as this is the mechanism by which Logic tracks everything it uses... and sometimes these indexes get corrupted and need to be rebuilt...


http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/17/rebuild-spotlight-index/


If on the odd chance they are actually missing then you may have to reinstall Logic (or it's extra content such as the Jam packs etc) from the DVDs... or you could use something like Pacifist to extract the missing files from the DVDs and put them in the correct place


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Mar 13, 2013 9:59 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

The solution was to use FindAnyFile, and within a minute, I found out that the missing audio samples were no longer in the Library/Application Support/Garageband/Instrument Library/Sampler/Sampler Files. Because I am using TimeMachine, FindAnyFile found the samples in my backup! It's a little scary that by updating my applications and upgrading to Mountain Lion, MacOS has actually removed or deleted 8 Gbyte of samples. Hmmmm, I somethimes that feels that Apple is messing up things more than I like.

Mar 13, 2013 10:21 AM in response to Helge Krabye

Glad FAF worked for you... (I suspected it would do so faster... and easier.. compared to any other method)


FAF is one of the best things i have in my 'box of tricks" when clients lose files or whatever..


As an aside, one of the reasons for this kind of issue is that the version of Logic from the App store, puts the additional content in different places to how the DVD boxed set did... and Mountain Lion itself, along with how TM sets thinsg up... in terms of User accounts and so on.. handles things differently too... so you can end up apparently missing several samples when in fact they are on your System drive somewhere or they got 'lost' when you upgraded and the disk/folder structure was changed...


This is why I always recommend people don't use Migration Assistant or Time Machine to restore their Logic setups... but instead, start from scratch with a clean install of ML.. followed by a clean install of Logic... 3rd party plugins and libraries and so on.. followed by a manual copy over of their personal data, projects/documents etc...and then make a Clone of their system disk using CCC or SuperDuper!, once the new setup has been confirmed as working okay. This way, if anything changes in the futre like and upgrade or update messing Logic up.. you can quickly restore from the Cloned image and be back to a working setup quick and painlessly.


Anyhow.. again, thanks for reporting back and letting us know what happened.. That is always appreciated!


Cheers..

Mar 13, 2013 11:22 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

Hi



Whilst I would agrree with the general sentiments over Logic, Migration and Time Machine (and missing sampler files)

The Art Of Sound wrote:


They can be stored in different places depending on what they are a part of... Some are a part of GB for example and some are part of the default Logic install.. and some are stored with the Jam Packs...


The Logic samples are stored in

Library:Application Support:Logic:EXS Factory Samples


GarageBand AND Jampack samples are stored in:

Library:Application Support:GarageBand:Instrument Library:Sampler


No samples are stored in with the JamPack loops.



The Art Of Sound wrote:


one of the reasons for this kind of issue is that the version of Logic from the App store, puts the additional content in different places to how the DVD boxed set did...


Are you sure there are differences between the Logic Studio 2 DVD's and the Download version of Logic Pro regarding what goes where?



CCT

Mar 13, 2013 5:39 PM in response to CCTM

CCT,


My apologies.. I phrased that badly...


I should have said.... " and some come with the Jam Packs" not "and some are stored with the Jam packs"


As far as the differences between the LS DVDs and the Additional Content... something weird is going on for sure as for example..


On a Mac I have, that has gone through a full LS1 install and then the LS2 upgrade along with the initial GB installation, way back when.. I have about 300+ EXSs that are duplicated in both possible locations.


On a Mac that has only had the App Store L9 plus additional content installed plus the latest GB I only have about 100 EXSs that are duplicated in both locations yet all the same EXSs are present on both computers... (as far as i can tell by a manual comparison at least)


Does that make any sense as to why that would be so?

Mar 14, 2013 2:39 AM in response to The Art Of Sound

Hi


Are you referring to the .exs Instrument files or the samples? GarageBand and/or Logic Application Support?


I have just had a quick look at 3 different installations, and they all have exactly the same samples in the GB App. Support folder.


A cursory check of .exs instrument files shows that I might be missing a few in newer installations, but I don't see 100-300 duplicates.



CCT

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