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a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

According to:

 

http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_capability/mac-specs-by-emc-number.html

The EMC# 2629 fits for both 2010 and 2012 Mac Pro servers.   And according to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro

The Machine ID is 5,1 for both 2010 and 2012.

And even some of the CPUs are the same.

The one thing that is different is the model# such as:

MC560*/A MC250*/A MC561*/A

My question is, short of someone having the box that it shipped in, is there a way on the back panel to find the model#?  Or does it appear on the system profiler? Or would someone need to submit to the https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do the support status of the serial number to obtain the model#?   Cause I know with logicboard upgrades sometimes even the serial # is unknown.  I see that the Mac Pro has the serial number and EMC# on the back panel in the indentation where the PCI ports have their panels.  But I didn't see any evidence of the model # there on images I find on the net.


OS X Mountain Lion, * Links may give me compensation
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,880 points)

    Firmware is about it That would be both EFI and SMC

     

    It was only a "processor speed bump" realy shipping with a 3,2 instead of the 2,8GHz it was shipping with.

     

    Which is why even now any Mac Pro can also run 10.6.5+ as originally.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    Oh and that's even without Parallels?  I didn't realize that.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    I might add, so the newer MacBook Airs, MacBook Pros, iMacs, Mac Minis, are the only ones that require Parallels for installing 10.6.8 or 10.7.5 or earlier?  Edited, because I realized some even had a refresh after Mountain Lion's release

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (53,375 points)
    Mac Pro

    Date introduced

    Original Mac OS X included
    (see Tips 1 and 3)

    Later Mac OS X included
    (see Tip 1)

    Mac OS X Build(s)
    (see Tip 2)

    Mac Pro (Mid 2012)Jun 201210.7.310.8 11D2001, 12A269
    Mac Pro (Mid 2010)Aug 201010.6.410.7, 10.7.2, 10.7.310F2521, 10F2554, 11A511a, 11C74, 11D2001
    Mac Pro with Mac OS X Server (Mid 2010)Aug 201010.6.410.7, 10.7.2, 10.7.3 (Server)10F2522, 11A511a, 11C74, 11D2001 (Server)
    Mac Pro (Early 2009)Mar 200910.5.610.69G3553, 10A432
    Mac Pro (Early 2008)

    Jan 2008

    10.5.1

    10.5.2, 10.5.4

    9B2117, 9C2031, 9E25
    Mac Pro

    Aug 2006

    10.4.7

    10.4.8, 10.4.9, 10.4.10, 10.5

    8K1079, 8N1430, 8N1250, 8K1124, 8P4037, 8R3032, 8R3041, 9A581, 9A3129

     

     

    from:

    HT1159- Mac OS X versions (builds) for computers

     

    Since the 2010 and 2012 are both Mac Pro 5,1, they are both running the same firmware, and the differences between them will be minimal. The Server version just comes bundled with the Server software pre-installed, and maybe an extra drive -- it is not a fundamentally different machine.

     

    If the 2010 can run 10.6.4, so can the later ones -- but getting it installed when the "full retail" discs contain 10.6.3 at the latest will be a trial. It can be done if you have another Mac that can run 10.6.8, and there is a very detailed procedure in a posting on this forum.

     

    Server consists of EXACTLY the same underlying Mac OS X, with additional Server features installed on top of that. There used to be a simple add-on Installer for that, but it does not appear to be working in 10.6.8. You may have to extract and Install the Server add-on package with Pacifist.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    That's cool, but you are sure that 10.6.5 or later will run on all MacPro 5,1s?

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (53,375 points)

    Read through this thread where we did what you are contemplating:

     

    Re: Stuck on gray screen on install of snow leopard server....

     

    .

     

    (my link is to the middle, you will want to start at the beginning.)

     

    The fifth post in shows a link to an field-developed procedure for installing using another Mac.

     

    Remember the rules:

     

    shipped in the box "model specific" sources only have drivers for that model.

     

    Purchased "Full Retail" versions, by Upgrade DVD _OR_ Download, contain Drivers for every appropriate Mac.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    Oh so you can't use a 10.6.5 installer disc from a 2010 Mac Pro on a 2012 Mac Pro?   If not, then the question really is, is there any other distinguishing method of finding the model # by year?   Also is there any software you can't run on 10.6.5 Server, that you can on Client?

     

    Message was edited by: a brody

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (60,880 points)

    There have been plenty of threads since Lion came out, and then Mac Pro shipped with Lion, and ordering the OEM DVD 10.6.x... so yes. It. Does.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    Please name one that is short, that clearly got one without the model names listed MC560*/A MC250*/A MC561*/A to run 10.6.5?  That would be helpful.

  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (53,375 points)

    Oh so you can't use a 10.6.5 installer disc from a 2010 Mac Pro on a 2012 Mac Pro? 

    I think you CAN, if you could find one, because same-family Macs running the same firmware (Mac Pro 5,1 in this case) are the same model for this purpose.

     

    Server differs mostly in the priority given the logged-in User versus the Server tasks. There is nothing you can't run on a Server. Certain Sharing things must be configured through the Server software instead of by System Preferences, that all.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    That's good to know.  I was concerned that Server may be too different and have some issues.

  • OM617.952 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    The 2010 and 2012 are identical in every way except what speed processors they use. They can even still run OS 10.6 with no issues.

  • a brody Level 9 Level 9 (64,875 points)

    The big question is, can you take a 10.6.5 Mac Pro installer CD that came with a Mac Pro in 2010 and install it on any 2012 Mac Pro?  If that's the case, then the matter is closed.   Have you actually done this on even a Mac Pro bought new in December of 2012 from an authorized dealer?

  • OM617.952 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)

    Yes, that is correct.

    It still uses Westmere processors, which are fully supported by 10.6

     

    The easiest method is to do a clean 10.6.8 install on a fully supported Mac then clone that installation onto your MacPro.

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