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Hi David

I posted a ? which has not been answered & have been looking at solutions for other folks with somewhat similar problems...in this case, David Dean's.

In David D's you suggested "First: Go to your iPhoto library folder in the Finder and Get Info (Cmd-I). In the Ownership and Permissions, expand the Details section. Make sure you are the owner, and set the access to Read and Write. Then click "Apply to enclosed items" and authenticate. This should address any permissions problem throughout your library. If this fixes your problem, you don't need step two."

I went into the Ownership, etc. but am unable to find any option "Apply to enclosed items & authenticate". Can you help me find this?

It lists Owner, Access, Group, Access & Others. Under both accesses & Others, it lists Read & write, Read only & no access.

Under Owner (me) & Group (admin).

So, I'm stumped!

Hope you can help, thanks,
Pat

G4 powerbook, Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Posted on May 20, 2006 2:12 PM

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Dave E

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May 20, 2006 3:52 PM in response to Pat Reilly

Hi, Pat!

I don't know how this button can be absent. Are you actually running 10.4.3 as your information says in the message? I have 10.4.6 and I see this button (Apply to enclosed items) for any folder.

The other thing to be sure of: That you're selecting the folder "iPhoto Library" - usually placed in your Pictures folder. What you're describing looks like the permissions structure of an application. Just to be sure, you're not doing this for the iPhoto application, or for any single image file in your library, right? This button would only appear for a folder.

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May 20, 2006 4:40 PM in response to Dave E

Thanks for the response, David!

I just signed on to send you a note that, after much fiddling, it did appear & I applied it to all. However the problem continues.

The problem is not exactly the same as David D's. There are two things occurring (at least).

I'm unable to drag 'n drop photos into my phanfare.com program when previously I could & did d 'n d hundreds. Now I get a message "the type you tried to import is not currently supported". I am able to import but not drag 'n drop. Phanfare engineers tried to help out but were unable to get a fix & felt it was a '06 bug. I guess I agree since, also, within iPhoto I have some pics that won't drag 'n drop between albums but there seems to be no pattern with them. One alligator will work; the next one won't.

And, within iPhoto, I have two batches of photos taken which, when I click on the thumbnail in order to edit, I just get a big blank gray screen with a dotted line square with an "!" in it. Now these are photos that DID work previously...even sent some of them off as originals to a local magazine that wanted them, but now can do nothing with them. It seems photos taken both before & after are behaving ok.
Just checked & I have 10.4.6.

So, I'm totally confused & if you can help I'd be very grateful.

thanks, Pat

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Dave E

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May 20, 2006 7:18 PM in response to Pat Reilly

OK - I didn't realize there was the Phanfare.com issue in between. The solution I outlined was to address an iPhoto library simply refusing to upgrade from iPhoto 5 to iPhoto 6.

The reason iPhoto shows you the dotted line and ! is because, for one or more of many reasons, it doesn't have a valid connection to the actual photo. This could be because:

- The file is bad or modified into something iPhoto doesn't see
- The file or its enclosing folder has been moved
- The file type doesn't match the file extension (e.g. a GIF with a .jpg extension)
- The iPhoto database is corrupted (launch iPhoto with Cmd-option held down and choose the database rebuild option)
- You don't have read access to the file in question, and this access was changed after upgrading 5.0 to 6 (if that ever happened)

Other than that I don't know what phanfare is doing. It could be their bug or iPhoto's. If Phanfare was used to 5.0's folder structure and 6 changed it, that may have something to do with it but I'm not familiar with phanfare enough to say.

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Pat Reilly Author

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May 21, 2006 4:37 AM in response to Dave E

Thanks for the effort, David

I installed phanfare & did all the work with it 5/5 & a few days after. iPhoto 6 wasn't installed until last Sunday, 5/13 & didn't experience any problems until just a few days ago.

thanks again,
Pat

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Dave E

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May 21, 2006 10:15 AM in response to Pat Reilly

What's interesting here is that it used to work and stopped. Wonder what could have caused that. You didn't happen to change the way you moved photos, right?

I tried dragging to the desktop, into Keynote, and to Mail, and even AppleWorks and all drags worked fine. If any of this fails for you then something's changed.

About not being able to drag from album to album, that will happen if the picture already exists in the destination album (if I understand the problem correctly)

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Dave E

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May 21, 2006 10:37 AM in response to Dave E

I just noticed, your messages say "10.4.3" - is that just not updated in your defaults or are you actually running 10.4.3?

One of the other problems iPhoto used to have with not locating images (and I even had that problem myself) was resolved with the 10.4.6 update. This happened, in particular, with images that were edited with Photoshop or anything that put thumbnails on the icons (in the Finder)

If you're actually on 10.4.6 I'm out of ideas.

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Pat Reilly Author

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May 21, 2006 2:33 PM in response to Dave E

Hi David
Decided to take a break & go hiking. I am running 10.4.6.

I had decided to go back through my library & put the photos that are not opening up into a separate folder & see what's in common with them (or try to). They seem to be occurring on just a few days. Some are all the pics on one day however some days it appears that some are ok; some not. Photos taken & added to iPhoto 5/4 & 5/8 won't open up from the thumbnails. Some, but not all, taken 4/14 & 15 are ok; some not. Phanfare was installed 5/5. iPhoto 6 was installed 5/13. Problem started showing up just a few days ago...5/17.

I don't know if this has anything to do with it but prior to upgrading to iPhoto 6 I had gone through & trashed out 100s (literally) of poor pics. I neglected to empty the trash so when iPhoto 6 came on board, it resurrected all those nasty old pics. I did spend some time going back & trying to rid duplicates...but it's been a very incomplete job since it's so big.

The way the library is set up now is different from '05 so not too sure what should be where & I don't want to venture to far into areas I have no comprehension of.

Right now I'm trying to concentrate on the problem within iPhoto..ie. getting those thumbnails to open up.

The inability to drag 'n drop into Phanfare is secondary since I can use the import function & if the iPhoto problem gets resolved perhaps the other will clear up.

So that's where I am with it. If you can think of anything, that would be great!

thanks, Pat

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Dave E

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May 22, 2006 5:04 PM in response to Pat Reilly

The iPhoto 6 library is organized using one folder for all Originals, and one for Modified photos. Within each of these folders is a folder for each year, and within each year folder is a folder for each roll (I think a roll is created for every import). You can view by Roll using the View - By Film Roll menu.

It might be useful to view by roll, and locate a thumbnail you can't open. Say if it is IMG004.jpg in Roll 35, and was taken in 2005. Go into Originals/2005/Roll 35 and find IMG004.jpg. Double click to see if it opens OK.

If you've edited it previously, then you will also have a Modified/2005/Roll 35/IMG004.jpg - see if you can open that one.

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Pat Reilly Author

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May 22, 2006 5:22 PM in response to Dave E

David

For what it's worth, I found an "Untitled CD" folder in the Finder. Was able to open it & found 2 iPhoto library folders in it & have been able to resurrect my pics that wouldn't open. I put them in the most recent updated iPhoto library & they open ok.

I have put the 2 folders in the Pictures application since I'm afraid to trash them. Is that necessary or can I get rid of them? I have no idea how they appeared or ended up in this "Untitled CD" folder.

IAC, my library is now complete & functioning.

I appreciate your info on the organization. I liked the ability to do it by month & date per iPhoto 5. Guess I'll have to get flexible.

Now I need to start going through my whole library & tidy it up by trashing dups & all those blanks.

thanks, Pat

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Dave E

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May 23, 2006 7:42 AM in response to Pat Reilly

Pat,

I'm happy you could recover your lost pics. The Untitled CD folder seems to be a folder that is saved when you burn a CD - I think there is an option to save the burn folder at some point when you burn a CD, and you may have done that.

If you've imported the pictures into the iPhoto library (and in Advanced prefs you have opted to actually copy pictures into the iPhoto library) then those folders in the Pictures folder are now duplicates. However, before you trash them take the opportunity to burn them to a CD and back them up, just in case.

The new organization is fairly useful, especially because the Originals folder is a one-stop shop for all your originals. I don't mind doing the editing over again as long as I have my "negatives" in the Originals folder. Importing that folder preserves rolls and keywords - I had to consolidate libraries to this iMac and the easiest way to do that was to bring the library from the older machine, update it for iPhoto 6, open my current library, and simply import the whole Originals folder from the old library. I wish iPhoto could integrate two libraries. Maybe in iLife 07. I keep wishing...

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