jer kiel
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Q: aperture 3.4.3 preferences does not show anything other then general

I just installed aperture 3.4.3  and want to check the preference, opening preference I cannot see the expected menu containing e.g.import, export settings. only the content of the general setting is displayed.

Bildschirmfoto 2013-03-19 um 01.18.17.png

 

Please help to allow me to enjoy my latest purchase.

Thanks,

Jens

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3)

Posted on Mar 18, 2013 5:24 PM

by léonie,Solvedanswer
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Jens, genau. Ich habe mein Aperture mal auf deutsche Menues eingestellt.

 

Wenn für mich das "Einstellungen" Panel erscheint, und die obere Symbolleiste fehlt, dann wähle ich es aus (klicke mit der Maus hinein), so dass es das aktive Fenster ist - mit dem Mauszeiger noch im Fenster. Dann presse ich Umschalttaste-T (⇧T) und die Symbolleiste mit anderen Optionen erscheint.  ⇧T schaltet zwischen mit und ohne Symbolleiste hin und her. Es kann sein, dass in Deiner Aperture Version die Kurzbefehle anders belegt sind. Dann versuche stattdessen den Befehl im Menü "Darstellung > Symbolleiste einblenden".  Klappt das? Aber achte darauf, dass du mit der Maus auf dem Weg zum Menue nicht das Hauptfenster aktivierst.

 

Falls alles das nicht klappen sollte, dann ist vermutlich die Datei preferences apple.com.Aperture.plist in der User Library nicht lesbar. Entferne sie, wie in

Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics

beschrieben.

 

Léonie

 

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Das Hin-und-Herschalten mit Shift-T sieht für mich so aus wie oben.

Posted on Mar 19, 2013 12:43 AM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 18, 2013 5:43 PM in response to jer kiel
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    Mar 18, 2013 5:43 PM in response to jer kiel

    Jens,

    select the "Allgemein" panel and use the command "View > Show Toolbar" (or the key combination ⇧T). That should bring the Toolbar of the Preferences panel back.

     

    Grüße

    Léonie

     

    Added: I have never seen the Toolbar vanish from the Preferences  panel in an earlier version of Aperture. And there is no sense in having it vanish. That looks buggy to me.

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Mar 18, 2013 5:57 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 18, 2013 5:57 PM in response to léonie

    Well done!

     

    Bugly.  I've never seen it (and wouldn't have figured it out, either).  Fwiw just tested it here (3.4.3, English localization, 10.8.3).

     

    Jens -- welcome to the discussions.  Don't let this start you off on the wrong foot.  .

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Mar 18, 2013 6:20 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 18, 2013 6:20 PM in response to léonie

    Well it is a window with a toolbar, and it is selected, and you did run hide toolbar, so......

     

    Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano - but it does seem to happen only if the preference window is selected and you run View->Hide Toolbar. The tabs won;t be hidden if you hide the toolbar on the main window.

  • by jer kiel,

    jer kiel jer kiel Mar 18, 2013 11:58 PM in response to jer kiel
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    Mar 18, 2013 11:58 PM in response to jer kiel

    @All, thanks for your answers.

    It seems that I put not enougth details on my issue - sorry.

     

    Trying to improve...

    All I did is click Aperture, select preferences. This is the result:

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-#172DB7.jpg

    The pop-up looks like this:

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-03-19 um 07.53.08.png

    But I expect it to look somehow like this (snapshot taken from training material):

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-03-19 um 07.50.36.png

    Thanks a lot.

    Jens

  • by léonie,Solvedanswer

    léonie léonie Mar 19, 2013 12:43 AM in response to jer kiel
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:43 AM in response to jer kiel

    Jens, genau. Ich habe mein Aperture mal auf deutsche Menues eingestellt.

     

    Wenn für mich das "Einstellungen" Panel erscheint, und die obere Symbolleiste fehlt, dann wähle ich es aus (klicke mit der Maus hinein), so dass es das aktive Fenster ist - mit dem Mauszeiger noch im Fenster. Dann presse ich Umschalttaste-T (⇧T) und die Symbolleiste mit anderen Optionen erscheint.  ⇧T schaltet zwischen mit und ohne Symbolleiste hin und her. Es kann sein, dass in Deiner Aperture Version die Kurzbefehle anders belegt sind. Dann versuche stattdessen den Befehl im Menü "Darstellung > Symbolleiste einblenden".  Klappt das? Aber achte darauf, dass du mit der Maus auf dem Weg zum Menue nicht das Hauptfenster aktivierst.

     

    Falls alles das nicht klappen sollte, dann ist vermutlich die Datei preferences apple.com.Aperture.plist in der User Library nicht lesbar. Entferne sie, wie in

    Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics

    beschrieben.

     

    Léonie

     

    Screen Shot 2013-03-19 at 08.30.07.png

    Screen Shot 2013-03-19 at 08.29.48.png

     

    Das Hin-und-Herschalten mit Shift-T sieht für mich so aus wie oben.

  • by jer kiel,

    jer kiel jer kiel Mar 19, 2013 12:49 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:49 AM in response to léonie

    Es war in der Tat so einfach (das richtige Fenster selektieren und dann Umschalttaste-T bzw Symbolleiste einblenden)

     

    Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe Leonie!!!

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 19, 2013 4:01 AM in response to Frank Caggiano
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    Mar 19, 2013 4:01 AM in response to Frank Caggiano

    Well it is a window with a toolbar, and it is selected, and you did run hide toolbar, so......

    Sure, only it is a bit ambiguous and poorly documented, which toolbar will be hidden . And I am still trying to figure out, for what we would want to use this surprising new "feature". It might come in handy, if we are only really using one preference pane, for example, the "Export" panel. You could freeze the panel to the "Export" view this way and can quickly switch between external file formats or color spaces or different mailers.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 19, 2013 4:03 AM in response to jer kiel
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    Mar 19, 2013 4:03 AM in response to jer kiel

    Gern geschehen! 

    Man entdeckt doch immer wieder neue, unbekannte Möglichkeiten in Aperture.

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Mar 19, 2013 7:21 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 19, 2013 7:21 AM in response to léonie

    I don;t think it was intentional, the tabs of  preference window are not really a toolbar in the normal OS X sense of the term.

     

    I reported it as a bug. W'ell see what happens.

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Mar 19, 2013 8:43 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 19, 2013 8:43 AM in response to léonie

    leonieDF wrote:

    unbekannte Möglichkeiten in Aperture.

    Never have I seen such a gentle translation of "bug".  .

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 19, 2013 8:52 AM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Mar 19, 2013 8:52 AM in response to Kirby Krieger

    Never have I seen such a gentle translation of "bug".  .

    I thought it might perhaps be an Easter egg (we are close to Easter) or a forgotten developer feature - just cautious

  • by Ernie Stamper,

    Ernie Stamper Ernie Stamper Mar 19, 2013 12:19 PM in response to léonie
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:19 PM in response to léonie

    Every Finder window and Preference windows for other apps, for example, has this potential.  Earlier versions of OSX even had a white pill icon to do the same thing as Show or Hide Toolbar.  I have not been surprised to see the same in Aperture.

     

    I have often seen people lose the Toolbar in the Preferences for Mail, for example.

     

    Ernie

  • by Frank Caggiano,

    Frank Caggiano Frank Caggiano Mar 19, 2013 12:31 PM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:31 PM in response to Ernie Stamper

    In Safari for one when you have the preference window open the Hide Toolbar is grayed out:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-03-19 at 15.23.04 .png

     

    Same in Finder, so this behavior in Aperture really isn't the norm.

     

    Mail is a different case. A message window is a regular window so hiding the toolbar makes sense. Though I just checked and if Mail's preference window is open the hide/show toolbar affects it.  (but that is what you wrote). 

     

    I still feel this is a bug.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 19, 2013 12:43 PM in response to Ernie Stamper
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    Mar 19, 2013 12:43 PM in response to Ernie Stamper

    In iPhoto '11 it isn't possible either - I tried.

     

    The Preferences panels don't have toolbars (with tools to select) - they have tabs to reveal different panels. And I think tabs to reveal panels are  conceptually something very different from a toolbar. So it is a bit confusing, if a menu command from the main application window "Hide Toolbar" will hide the tabs of a sub panel, even if this panel has the mouse focus.

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