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Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

My iPhoto library is apparently corrupt so I've been unable to upgrade from 8.1.2. I have numerous books that took WEEKS each to create. I have the .pdf files for these books that iPhoto generates. Is there ANY way I can order the books from Apple with just the .pdf files? I saw a post from 2007 describing a workaround that involves saving the iPhoto Library under another name, deleting all pictures that aren't necessary for the book, then saving that Library for use only when ordering the book. I'm hoping Apple has come up with another way since 2007.

 

Thanks!


Mac OS X (10.6.8)
  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (61,735 points)

    No you can not order from a PDF - you must order from iPhoto - the 2007 post is not a workaround for ordering but a way to archive your book for future use and it was not an Apple suggestion - it is a user suggestion

     

    so lets start with the basics - what version of iPhoto do you have? is yoru profile of OS X version 10.6.8 accurate? why can't you order your photo books? Exactly what happens including any error messages.

     

    have you booted into safe mode and tried to preview it using this method - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1040 - and save the resulting PDF for reference - and then order?

     

    LN

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I can order books and I have. I just can't upgrade my iPhoto or my OS. Even the Apple Store gurus couldn't get my iPhoto Library to work with 09. They had installed 09 on my iMac (without my consent) while working on another issue. My iPhoto Library wouldn't work despite there best attempts. They put 8.1.2 back on my iMac and I've been trying to figure out how to save my work for several years now.

     

    Tonight I downloaded a trial version of iPhoto Library Manager. Surprisingly, it says my iPhoto Library is v9.2.1!

     

    In addition to my books, I have used the "description" section to save information for nearly 1000 wildflower pictures: scientific name, common name, location, date, etc. The Apple folks told me they could definitely reconstruct my iPhoto Library but I'd lose all that information.

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (61,735 points)

    You need to look and report what you have

     

    Version 8.1.2 is iPhoto '09  --  version 9.2.1 is iPhoto '11

     

    So the Apple Store Gurus have no idea

     

    I can order books and I have. I just can't upgrade my iPhoto or my OS. Even the Apple Store gurus couldn't get my iPhoto Library to work with 09. They had installed 09 on my iMac (without my consent) while working on another issue. My iPhoto Library wouldn't work despite there best attempts. They put 8.1.2 back on my iMac and I've been trying to figure out how to save my work for several years now.

    And your original post is about not being able to order books - can you or can you not?

    In addition to my books, I have used the "description" section to save information for nearly 1000 wildflower pictures: scientific name, common name, location, date, etc. The Apple folks told me they could definitely reconstruct my iPhoto Library but I'd lose all that information.

    Ok - depending on how you "fix" the library this could be a problem  --  which is why to help yo we need clear and accurate information - and actually answering the question swould also be helpful

     

    so lets start with the basics - what version of iPhoto do you have? is your profile of OS X version 10.6.8 accurate? why can't you order your photo books? Exactly what happens including any error messages.

     

    have you booted into safe mode and tried to preview it using this method -http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1040 - and save the resulting PDF for reference - and then order?

    You have not answered a single one of these - but have added a lot of confusing and contridictory information to the discussion

     

    Launch iPhoto and under the iPhoto menu ==> about iPhoto report the version you are running

     

    Under the Apple menu ==> about this Mac report what version of the OS you have

     

    first you say you can not order books then you say you can - can you order books? If so then what is your question? if not then why not and what happens and exactly what error messages do you get?

     

    And if not have you tried the safe mode route?

     

    We simply can not resolve this without answers to very specific questions

     

    LN

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Please reread my original post. I did NOT say I can't order books. I CAN order books, and have. I said I have created numerous books but my Library is apparently corrupt, so I CANNOT UPGRADE without losing the books. Therefore, in order to save my books (for future use) I wanted to know if I can order books directly from the .pdf files I have saved. The answer to that appears to be "no."

     

    To answer your questions:

     

    My iMac is running OS X 10.6.8

     

    I am running iPhoto '09 8.1.2 (424). Yes, I previously said I was using iPhoto '08. It's my mistake for thinking the version number would match the "year" number. It seems so logical.

     

    iPhoto Library Manager thinks my iPhoto Library is 9.2.1. That most likely is from when the Apple Store loaded Snow Leopard and iPhoto '11 on my machine by mistake when they replaced my hard drive. When we found that my iPhoto Library would not work, and they were unable to fix it, they restored iPhoto '09. The Library works, but I do believe it isn't completely healthy. (For example, when iDVD looks at my iPhoto Library Events, it displays numerous blank thumbnails. Occasionally I've found pictures that only display the black exclamation point.)

     

    Note, I've done NOTHING with iPhoto Library Manager except to launch it and read instructions to see if it could repair my iPhoto Library AND PRESERVE MY BOOKS. It can't preserve books either.

     

    So let me restate my issue. I have numerous books and photo descriptions that I'd like to preserve. I'd also like to upgrade from iPhoto '09. The Apple Store folks said they could "manually" rebuild (this might not be the correct terminology) my iPhoto Library, but I will definitely lose all my books and descriptions. That's a big deal. How can I avoid this?

     

    I have figured out that I can "export" my photos and the "descriptions" will be preserved when I import them into iPhoto. With over 20,000 photos in several hundred events, that's tedious but it works. The books are still a problem however.

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (61,735 points)

    neither rebuilding your library using the iPhoto rebuild affects books

     

    upgrading does not affect your books

     

    What did not work when Apple installed iPhoto '11?

     

    No question about the numbering system beimg confusing - hence the specific question about what version you have

     

    to start Back up your iPhoto library, Depress and hold the option (alt) and command keys and launch iPhoto - rebuild your iPhoto library - start from the top and do the first, third and remaining rebuilds one at a time

     

    LN

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The folks at the Apple Store did this, but I'll try it again. Even after doing that the Library would not work with iPhoto '11. I recall there was something iPhoto '11 had to do with an older Library when you first tried to open it. That procedure always hung up and would not finish.

     

    You are correct that the "rebuild" procedures you describe don't affect books. The Apple Store folks told me there was a way they were sure they could reconstruct the Library so it would work with iPhoto '11, but that I'd lose all my albums, descriptions and books. I don't know the exact wording they used, but the result was that I'd get my photos and nothing else.

     

    I've put a backup on an external drive. I'll try the steps you suggest with that copy so I can take it to my son-in-law to try using iPhoto '11.

     

    Tom

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (61,735 points)

    I recall there was something iPhoto '11 had to do with an older Library when you first tried to open it. That procedure always hung up and would not finish.

    Yes - to use iPhoto '11 the library must be upgraded form the iPhoto '09 format to the iPhoto '11 format - so I think you are saying that you have tried this and it just runs foever never completeing? Or does it crash? Or give an error message?

     

    The Apple Store folks told me there was a way they were sure they could reconstruct the Library so it would work with iPhoto '11, but that I'd lose all my albums, descriptions and books.

    I call that starging over from your originals and you get only your original photos - you also can export form iPhoto '09 keeping the edits and metadata and do a new library with those photos - but neither of these will keep the books

     

    Try rebuilding and Try your Son inlaws computer

     

    LN

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I did the first step without a problem. The second step, "recover orphaned photos" said it found 45565 photos that don't belong to this library. I don't have that many photos in my entire library! It asked whether I wanted to import them. I said "no". All the thumbnails for my events have disappeared and all my photos now appear only as the black exclamation point! I'll have to make another backup and start over. I'm sure this isn't supposed to happen, right?

     

    Tom

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I forgot to answer your question about upgrading the library to '11. The upgrading just never finished. I don't recall that we ever got an error message.

     

    Tom

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    OK, I've done all the steps you suggested. I did them sequentially, quitting iPhoto between each step, then restarting with option-command. My Library is now totaly screwed up. All of the ~45000 recovered photos were 270x340 pixels (or something very close to that). I continued with the rest of the steps and now the Recovered Photo album is empty. Numerous Events show a blank thumbnail and MANY pictures are missing, giving only the black exclamation point. Some of the "blank" events do still have some pictures but many "blank" events show only dashed squares where pictures should be.

     

    My books are also messed up.

     

    What next?

     

    Fortunately, I still have the original Library.

  • LarryHN Level 9 Level 9 (61,735 points)

    Nothing above can change the size of photos - so I have no idea what you did

     

    SInce what you have does not work restore the backup you made before starting and you are exactly where you started - maybe if you tell exactly waht you did someone can see what went wrong

     

    How did things go on your Son in law's Mac?

     

    LN

  • Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (122,385 points)

    I know this is like closing the barn door after the horses have gotten out but for future books this tutorial may be of some help: iP08 - Archiving an iPhoto Book for Editing and/or Ordering at a Later Date

     

    OT

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The first time I reovered orphaned photos I said "NO" to importing orphaned photos. The orphaned photos were saved to a new folder outside of iPhoto Library. I looked at the saved photos. All were small size and many had a filename that included the word "face". I suspect the "orphaned photos" were really just thumbnails. That explains the small size. Note that I didn't say this changed the size of any of my non-orphaned photos. It didn't.

     

    When I said "YES" to importing the salvaged photos, the orphaned photos were saved to an album in iPhoto. They were all small size. My other existing photos did not change size, but many disappeared (i.e., changed to the black exclamation point). This situation persisted even after I completed all the other steps. I'd estimate the most recent 25% of my events had lost their thumbnails and contained very very few, if any, real pictures. Since so many pictures were gone I did not take the Library to my son-in-law. I didn't see the point.

     

    Here's the complete sequence of what I did:

     

    1. start iPhoto while holding down option-command till Rebuild window appears

         choose top option, Rebuild photos' small thumbnails; click Rebuild

         when this finishes, Quit iPhoto

    2. start iPhoto again while holding down option-command till Rebuild window appears

         choose third option, Recover orphaned photos; click Rebuild

         when this finishes, Quit iPhoto

    3. start iPhoto again while holding down option-command till Rebuild window appears

         choose fourth option, Examine and repair; click Rebuild

         when this finishes, Quit iPhoto

    4. start iPhoto again while holding down option-command till Rebuild window appears

         choose fifth option, Rebuild from automatic backup; click Rebuild

         when this finishes, Quit iPhoto

    5. start iPhoto again while holding down option-command till Rebuild window appears

         choose sixth option, Reclaim unused disk space; click Rebuild

         when this finishes, Quit iPhoto

     

    Tom

  • Flintlock Hokie Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This can still work for me. I can still print books from my existing Library. So I should be able to use this procedure to save both the necessary files AND my current version of iPhoto. Then I can upgrade iPhoto. Thanks!

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