7 Replies Latest reply: Mar 25, 2013 7:01 AM by Linc Davis
silvabma Level 1 (0 points)

Hi, I have a macbok pro with Mac OSX 10.7.5.  I have 4 gb ram and for the last two weeks, I have been using all my RAM.  I have moved all apps that I don't use to the trash but I am still having a problem. The offenders are: safari, Safari web content, warmd_agent and pboard.  Do I need safari web content, warmd.offender and pboard?   This is becoming really annoying and would love to have a solution that doesn't require buying more RAM. Thanks in advance.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5)
  • CMCSK Level 6 (10,717 points)

    Ask in the Safari forum













  • Linc Davis Level 10 (192,330 points)

    Moving system components to the Trash won't help at all with your problem; it will either have no effect, or will make your computer unusable. Please clarify what you mean by "using up all your RAM."

  • SwankPeRFection Level 4 (1,435 points)

    Those are normal processes of those programs running.  I don't think you comprehend how RAM is used and unfortuantely, once you get to a certain point of OS version and software version (newers ones will use more and more RAM), you WILL end up needing to upgrade your system.  Sorry, but 4GB of RAM isn't enough for anything.  Either deal with the slowness of filling up the RAM and swapping to the VM file on your hard drive during normal use or upgrade the RAM amount and be done with it.  Bottom line... YOU WILL FILL OUT 4GB OF RAM DURING NORMAL OPERATION OF YOUR MAC.  Deal with it... it's normal.

  • esben72 Level 1 (35 points)

    I think OP means all RAM is assigned a task. He reads 3 MB free RAM in Activity Monitor.


    To OP, if I am right:


    Mac OS always puts something in your RAM, because it wants to be effective it tries to predict what you will need next. If the RAM was free it would just be sitting there doing nothing - This way, filled up, at least it stands a chance of already being there when you need it instead of having to pull it from your HD.


    4GB is plenty for most - 8GB is pretty cheap though.


    Unless there is something you have not described there is no reason that you would have to upgrade

  • silvabma Level 1 (0 points)

    A message would come up "insufficient memory..." and I couldn't finish what I wanted to accomplish!   I have deleted adobe digital, firefox, avira and I now have approx 126.3 mb of "free"  ram. I started to have problems downloading audio books and ended up deleting the downloading the overdrive console approx 8 times - each tme 5.5 mb memory but assumed would affect hard drive as I am only using 20% of my hard drive I thought no big deal - but that is when everything turned to a spinning beach ball and a message saying insufficient memory ......    


    I thought that 4 GB would be more than enough as I use my laptop for applying for work and emails.  No games etc.  (and downloading audiobooks!!)

  • esben72 Level 1 (35 points)

    1. NO it is not safe. Do not move or trash anything from outside your user directory or from Activity Monitor


    2. You do not get ANY more RAM/memoryfrom deleting apps or other stuff, you get hard drive space/memory


    3. Can we use the words RAM or HD instead of "memory" we need to be precise here


    4. What was the exact system message? What did you want to accomplish


    We need as precise and relevantly full description of your situation.


    Have you tried restarting? Btw instead of trashing try force quitting in the future. It is less final. That is if you really feel you have to :)


    "and ended up deleting the downloading the overdrive console approx 8 times - each tme 5.5 mb memory but assumed would affect hard drive as I am only using 20% of my hard drive I thought no big deal"

    Not sure what you are saying what is overdrive console

  • Linc Davis Level 10 (192,330 points)

    Your problem is excessive swapping of data between physical memory and virtual memory.


    That can happen for two reasons:


    • You have a long-running process with a memory leak (i.e., a bug), or
    • You don't have enough memory installed for your usage pattern.


    Tracking down a memory leak can be difficult, and it may come down to a process of elimination. In Activity Monitor, select All Processes from the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected. Click the heading of the Real Mem column in the process table twice to sort the table with the highest value at the top. If you don't see that column, select


    View ▹ Columns ▹ Real Memory


    from the menu bar.


    If one process (excluding "kernel_task") is using much more memory than all the others, that could be an indication of a leak. A better indication would be a process that continually grabs more and more memory over time without ever releasing it.


    If you don't have an obvious memory leak, your options are to install more memory (if possible) or to run fewer programs simultaneously.


    The next suggestion is only for users familiar with the shell. For a more precise, but potentially misleading, test, run the following command: 

    sudo leaks -nocontext -nostacks process | grep total


    where process is the name of a process you suspect of leaking memory. Almost every process will leak some memory; the question is how much, and especially how much the leak increases with time. I can’t be more specific. See the leaks(1) man page and the Apple developer documentation for details:


    Memory Usage Performance Guidelines: About the Virtual Memory System