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Q: iWeb Replacement

Is Apple going to be replacing iWeb anytime soon? I really don't like the the alternatives. Freeway Pro, Rapidweaver and Sandvox. I have them all and none do I like. Too many add on things in hopes of making a better page. Too much cost.

 

I really want iWeb or a new version now. iWeb is OK but limited now because of no further support.

Posted on Mar 28, 2013 11:01 AM

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  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Oct 28, 2015 1:16 AM in response to Stanley Wilde
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    Oct 28, 2015 1:16 AM in response to Stanley Wilde

    Well, you need to remember that the solution to this problem, if there is one will not come from iWeb itself, because it is an unsupported product.

     

    Unfortunately, with each new OS that comes out, iWeb will get a little less compatible and you will get more and more problems like this one and as iWeb is not going to be updated, then don't you think that it is time you moved on to other software?  It would be the most sensible thing to do, unless you want to wait until iWeb stops working altogether and you are forced to move.

  • by Stanley Wilde,

    Stanley Wilde Stanley Wilde Oct 28, 2015 6:29 AM in response to Ethmoid
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    Oct 28, 2015 6:29 AM in response to Ethmoid

    Alas, I am trying to avoid using another product, and thus having to rewrite all of my web pages.  I think I will rewrite them using EverWeb.  I just wish there is an import function, instead of cut and pasting.

  • by soltltym,

    soltltym soltltym Oct 28, 2015 7:08 AM in response to Stanley Wilde
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    Oct 28, 2015 7:08 AM in response to Stanley Wilde

    I think Everweb is a close proximity to iWeb from what I have seen, but I just don't like the idea of having to continually pay them to create my own web pages. If they would just sell the software I would go for it. But I am NOT paying a monthly or yearly fee to use software I already paid for. I want to choose my hosting provider too. They just have too much control over my life, and that is what turns me away from EverWeb.

     

    I will go with RapidWeaver as a replacement. Their solution is ok, but no where near as easy as iWeb. I don't understand why someone just doesn't takeover iWeb or write a duplicate? Nothing can replace that power and ease of use.

  • by Stanley Wilde,

    Stanley Wilde Stanley Wilde Oct 28, 2015 7:19 AM in response to soltltym
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    Oct 28, 2015 7:19 AM in response to soltltym

    I've read several post dealing with EverWeb, and some of them refer to the hosting on EverWeb servers.  But I have seen other post that say differently.  When I went to EverWeb's site, and looked at the different options to purchase it, I see that there is a one time charge of $79, without the hosting.  Here is the link: https://billing.ragesw.com/cart.php?gid=3

  • by soltltym,

    soltltym soltltym Oct 28, 2015 7:30 AM in response to Stanley Wilde
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    Oct 28, 2015 7:30 AM in response to Stanley Wilde

    Yes, but read the fine print, that is limited to one year, then you have to pay $49.95 thereafter. Even if you ftp to another server you have to go through their servers to get there. They just don't want to play fair.

  • by soltltym,

    soltltym soltltym Oct 28, 2015 7:37 AM in response to soltltym
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    Oct 28, 2015 7:37 AM in response to soltltym

    They want that repeating revenue. I can still remember the time when you bought software that it included free upgrades as long as you had a valid license. Nowadays they want money for each upgrade. Just goes to show that greed is taking over value and customer satisfaction.

  • by Stanley Wilde,

    Stanley Wilde Stanley Wilde Oct 28, 2015 8:19 AM in response to soltltym
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    Oct 28, 2015 8:19 AM in response to soltltym

    Just don't upgrade, until a new version of the mac comes along, and it's broken, which shouldn't happen, right?

     

    I haven't heard about having to go through their hosting site.  Is there a charge?  Is it transparent to me?

  • by Stanley Wilde,

    Stanley Wilde Stanley Wilde Oct 28, 2015 8:38 AM in response to Stanley Wilde
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    Oct 28, 2015 8:38 AM in response to Stanley Wilde

    I was just experimenting, and noticed with iWeb that when I published to my local drive everything looked great.  It's just when publishing to the host that I start losing my links.  I just wish that I can stay with iWeb, and not have to rewrite all my pages.  Sigh ....

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Oct 29, 2015 1:51 AM in response to Stanley Wilde
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    Oct 29, 2015 1:51 AM in response to Stanley Wilde

    No, you do not have to publish EverWeb to their hosting, but it is an option if you want it, just like MobileMe was with iWeb.

     

    You can buy the standalone version if you want to and then you have the choice of publishing your site direct to a web host of your choice.  There is direct publishing, but you don't have to use that either - you have the option of publishing to your desktop and then uploading to your server using an ftp programme of your choice - so Cyberduck, Transmit etc.

  • by Judikz,

    Judikz Judikz Mar 10, 2016 7:08 PM in response to greenev
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    Mar 10, 2016 7:08 PM in response to greenev

    I want iWeb back!!!!!

     

    I designed my entire website on it and now only have it on my old macbook, that is missing keys and worse.

     

    Do any of alternatives allow you to convert from iWeb, or do you have to start completely from scratch? I have done some updating in html directly through my host, but I really prefer a GUI.

     

    This is even worse than the iPhoto disappearance. At least I can still load and access my photos...

     

    For those of us who designed sites using iWeb, what are we supposed to do????

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Mar 11, 2016 1:13 AM in response to Judikz
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    Mar 11, 2016 1:13 AM in response to Judikz

    Unfortunately, you will have to re-build your site from scratch in either EverWeb or whatever alternative you choose to use.

     

    There are very few programmes out there that will import sites - DreamWeaver is one and also Flux 6, but both of these have quite a steep learning curve, so in the end, it might be easier for you to re-build your site from scratch in a new programme.

     

    If you are using EverWeb, then you can cut and paste from iWeb and by re-building it you can freshen up the site and design it with a new look, with either a template of your choice or just start from scratch with a blank template.

  • by soltltym,

    soltltym soltltym Mar 13, 2016 8:52 AM in response to Judikz
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    Mar 13, 2016 8:52 AM in response to Judikz

    Yes, aborting iWeb was probably the biggest mistake Apple has made for a long time. I have yet to understand why, and they didn't care to tell us, either.

     

    I have 12 different web sites that I created with iWeb. To build those 12 without iWeb would have taken me months instead of hours. The simplicity and ease was incomparable. iWeb was the utopia for non-programmers. You never had to touch that ugly html, ever.

     

    After trying every other web software made for Mac, I did land on EverWeb. It is about half as easy as iWeb, and it does require the individual to have to learn how remote hosting works (I never had to worry about that with iWeb). EverWeb wants you to let them do this, but at a price, and they also make you re-pay every year just to use their software.

     

    No, it does not allow importing of iWeb. No others do, either. You have to re-do all your web sites in EverWeb from scratch. But, the nice part is that it works a lot like iWeb, and will only require a very small learning curve. It is mostly just a cut and paste process. But it will take hours for each web you move.

     

    It is acceptable, at best, but no where near as quick and easy as iWeb. You have to remember, though, that it wasn't just iWeb alone. A lot of the ease was due entirely to paying for "Mobile Me" which automated all of the hosting and setup of your website. This attributed to the simplicity of non-programmers creating web sites with ease. Truth be known, the demise of Mobile Me is probably the reason for Apple abandoning iWeb, but they could have updated it just like EverWeb?

  • by Judikz,

    Judikz Judikz Mar 13, 2016 9:00 AM in response to soltltym
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    Mar 13, 2016 9:00 AM in response to soltltym

    I never used MobileMe with iWeb, I used another program to upload everything to my host site/server. It was easy. I can still get in and change the html to update small things, but am not a fan of code. Can I not import the html code from my iWeb site into something else so that it looks the same and converts? I may try that. I just tried downloading Google Web Designer, but the whole thing seems built for designing banner ads, not webpages and I haven't figured out how to do anything yet. I have a new website to design and am considering going back to iWeb on my old machine to do it, but am worried about updates and changes.

     

    This is really upsetting. It may cost me hours, days, and even my company's website : (

     

    Thank-you for feeling my pain.

  • by Corier,

    Corier Corier Mar 13, 2016 9:27 AM in response to soltltym
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    Mar 13, 2016 9:27 AM in response to soltltym

    Hi soltltym, want to share your websites made with iWeb? I love to see web design made with this fantastic software.

  • by Ethmoid,

    Ethmoid Ethmoid Mar 13, 2016 2:00 PM in response to Judikz
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    Mar 13, 2016 2:00 PM in response to Judikz

    NO, you CANNOT import html code into EverWeb - that is what people have been trying to tell you - EverWeb and the likes of other programmes like it have no import facility, so CANNOT import html code of any sort, which is why you have to cut and paste.

     

    If you want to import code, then you will have to purchase DreamWeaver from Adobe or Flux 6 - both of these have import facilities, but your site will probably not look the same as iWeb html is loaded and it really won't be worth doing.

     

    As for Google website builder, this is designed to be used with Google.

     

    If you want to re-do your site, give EverWeb a try.

     

    Updates and changes in iWeb:  There won't be any further updates to iWeb - it is unsupported software.  As for updates to OS X.  Yes, these will definitely happen and then at some point in time iWeb will stop working, so you really need to think about moving on now rather than later, before you are forced to.

     

    Time to move on - there is better software out there now and other programmes can do a lot more than iWeb ever could - in the days when I used iWeb, I still had to use html code to get the kind of site that I wanted.

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