Q: Logic Pro Unintuitive and frustrating.

Out of sheer interest, are you playing or working (like trying to earn money) with Logic? Because if it is the latter you should definitely consider a switch of DAW. Try GarageBand or better still hire an engineer who does the stupid tasks in Logic, you can be the producer, focused on the creative part of a given production. Trust me it works. Nothing more to say really, you don't seem to be the person who is prepared to change his attitude against Logic, and you are in for a long wait if you're expecting Logic to adapt your way of thinking.

Good luck and have a nice day!

Stick with a MIDI/Audio sequencer you're comfortable with, Logic is not for you.

To some people it's very intuitive, to others, not so much, it's good we have choices isn't it?

Ediiting Midi.  recorded midi part.  When in and tried to edit and it seemed nothing I did worked as expected.  This happens everytime I open and use Logic. 

I think Logic 9 is great, and know it well - but I agree that in terms of editing MIDI, there's a lot of room for improvement. And that's kind of weird, given that logic has a good reputation for it's MIDI features, but I guess that developing the audio editing side of Logic has gotten most of th focus the last few years.

I feel your pain!

Having said that, It's not, that Logic is un-intuitive, it just uses a dirrerent approach to doing things.

I come fromm a SONAR, ProTools, Sequoia background, and trust me, I have to remind mysely whenever I open Logic, that this is not one of the other DAWs.

Don't give up, just remember, that you now have a new girlfriend with different quirks, different tastes etc ....

I don't think you're going to get what you're looking for asking general questions.  I'd recommend starting threads with the specific issues that are bugging you and hopefully people can help with those.

If you really just hate Logic (and it sounds like that may be a possibility), there may not be any advice that can change your mind and you might be happier with another DAW.

Octopusy wrote:

 

Again.  I AM VERY open to knowing what the **** I'm missing.  I OWN Logic and would have to pay to go back to Pro Tools.  PT is awesome but would rather get used to Logic since it's "SO" great.  Plus, I own it, I own books, I've watched a bunch of videos.  It's the general workflow, editing, advanced basic functionality I'm just not getting. 

C'mon man, you sound like a Woody Allen movie where continued aggravation is considered a virtue.

You want to like/learn Logc but you don't want to like/learn Logic and you expect other users to hold your hand and explain every little detail that you "don't get". It sounds like Logic is not going to work the way you expect it to and you're not "really" ready to change or be open to the Logic's method of doing things so just use another DAW that suits you, it's that simple. The easiest method of learning a complex program is to take one area at a time and explore it... a perfect example is the MIDI editing you "don't get". It's relative to the original note placement position unless you have snap selected. Maybe Logic has too many choices, it's able to be configured to work almost any way you prefer but it takes time to understand the program and it's available options. If you don't have that patience........ move on!

Logic Pro 9 Advanced Music Production by David Dvorin with Robert Brock

The best there is in my opinion!

Have a nice day.

Yes, and another friendly word of advice: forget the Environment completely, until you understand it's potential! You will not need it anyway to explore Logic but you will love it once you have mastered the basic functionality of the program. One of the booby traps you probably already have encountered is the sheer endless list of possibilities to handle a given problem in Logic. Choose one solution and stick with it!

Good luck!

Octopusy wrote:

 

Thanks to those who tried to help.  I DO appreciate it. I wish this software was a bit less ********

Logic may be too creative/smart for you, some software is like that, it leaves "********" users it's it's wake as it moves forward breaking new ground... don't feel bad though, you aren't the first, I've seen a few others.

Logic is fine.  Apple on the other hand..........

You're awfully obsessed with that word.

To Octopussy,

By reading you, i'd say don't waste time with Logic if you don't like it(or get it, like you say). Those programs are made by human beings and everybody has its ways of doing/wanting things done. I've had the exact opposite experience with Logic when i purchased Micro Logic 2.0 some 10+ years ago. I had tried other MIDI sequencer(that's all you got at the time) and was never really satisfied and wasn't "getting it" like you say. I tried Micro Logic and made my first song even without reading the manual. Everything was in the right place and editing was done as it should(in my way of thinking). I didn't fight the other programs, as good as they can be, because i just didn't felt at home in them.

Those programs are tools to materialize our creativity, whether it's composing, sound design or mixing. You should find the one that you almost don't have to think about so you can focus on what's important. It's not like you don't have alternatives. If Logic isn't that program, you unfortunately lost 200$ to realize it. Welcome to the club, we've all been there.