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Power Mac G4 MDD

Hi Everyone!

I need some help and I know this is the place to go.

I just picked up a Power Mac G4 1GHz Duel's (MDD) 2002 model, runs like a champ for $0.00. A friend gave me a 1.25GHz Duel 2002 model that won't power up. Here is my question, because I don't know whats wrong with the 1.25GHz can I swap the processor from the 1.25GHz and use it on the 1GHz model to verify if the processor is good, or if the processor is bad on the 1.25GHz could that damage the motherboard on the working 1GHz machine?


Here are the motherboard model numbers if that helps

1GHz Duel = 820-1453-A (2002)

1.25GHz = 820-1474-A (2002)



My ultimate goal is to find out what is wrong with the 1.25GHz machine, (ie) Power Supply, Motherboard or Processor



Thanks In Advance!

MajorMacintosh

Power Mac G4 MDD-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Apr 1, 2013 7:37 PM

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Apr 1, 2013 11:35 PM in response to MajorMacintosh

Hi, as long as they're the same bus speed should be n problem. 🙂


If you don't know the model, find the Serial# & use it on one of these sites, but don't post the Serial# here...


http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html


http://www.appleserialnumberinfo.com/Desktop/index.php


How to find the serial number of your Apple hardware product...


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1349

Apr 2, 2013 10:48 PM in response to MajorMacintosh

Wow your all great with the responses.


Here is my game plan:


#1. I did pick-up some Arctic Silver 5 today, however I have never done this before. Arctic's web site really is geared to the pc side of things. Can someone provide me more info using this thermal grease on Power PC chips?


#2. What should I clean the Power PC chips with?


#3. Swap the cards and cross my fingers.


#4. I will post and let everyone know how this all works out.


Thanks so much everyone, the Apple Community is the best!

MajorMacintosh

Apr 4, 2013 2:58 PM in response to MajorMacintosh

Hi Everyone,

Thought I would update everyone on this.


04/02/13

Installed to 1.25 DP and it has worked fine.

Did a fresh install of Leopard + all updates, didn't install anything else


Played with it as-is to verify stability, (ie) sleep , safari


04/04/13

Installed iStat


CPU's running fight now at 119 Deg. Is this OK?


Put system to sleep and tryed to wake up and got the following "Panic"


Specs on the hardware are at the bottom.


Can someone tell me what happened?


Thanks Again!



Interval Since Last Panic Report: 9966 sec

Panics Since Last Report: 1

Anonymous UUID: 9F2B750D-3091-48B2-9DED-A2E33946B13A


Thu Apr 4 16:13:55 2013



Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000E5C PC=0x00000000000AC6B8

Latest crash info for cpu 0:

Exception state (sv=0x18cfe000)

PC=0x000AC6B8; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x00000E5C; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000AC604; R1=0x1D82FCD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)

Backtrace:

0x01F96E18 0x0002E14C 0x0003B264 0x0005813C 0x0002C100 0x00024B58

0x000B45CC 0x00000000

Proceeding back via exception chain:

Exception state (sv=0x18cfe000)

previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...

Exception state (sv=0x1d7a9000)

PC=0x907B5078; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0xE0014000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x907BBFA0; R1=0xBFFFEE60; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)


BSD process name corresponding to current thread: iStatLocalDaemon


Mac OS version:

9L31a


Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC

System model name: PowerMac3,6


System uptime in nanoseconds: 3925799583047

unloaded kexts:

com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0 - last unloaded 4064650090

loaded kexts:

com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2 - last loaded 1271375364

com.apple.GeForcePPC 5.4.8

com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6

com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0

com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1

com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2

com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1

com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1

com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOpticalMouse 3.2.0

com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1

com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7

com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2

com.apple.driver.AppleSlewClock 1.5.2d0

com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0

com.apple.driver.AppleDallasDriver 2.5.8f1

com.apple.driver.AppleADM103x 1.0.10f1

com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1

com.apple.nvidia.nv20hal 5.4.8

com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2

com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0

com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.0.9

com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.1.1

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.4.9

com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.5.2

com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91

com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage 2.0.6

com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport 1.5.3

com.apple.driver.ApplePMU 2.5.6d2

com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1

com.apple.driver.AppleGPIO 1.3.0d0

com.apple.driver.AppleCPUThermo 2.0.0a0

com.apple.iokit.AppleMediaBay 1.0.2f1

com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA 1.1.1f1

com.apple.driver.AppleI2C 4.0.0d2

com.apple.driver.MacIOGPIO 1.3.0d0

com.apple.driver.AppleMPIC 1.5.3

com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet 1.5.9f1

com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 3.9.7

com.apple.driver.AppleKauaiATA 1.2.1f4

com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.4.6

com.apple.driver.AppleKeyLargo 1.7.2f1

com.apple.driver.AppleMacRiscPCI 3.4.0

com.apple.driver.AppleCore99NVRAM 1.1.1

com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12

com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.8.77

com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3

com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199

com.apple.BootCache 30.4

com.apple.driver.AppleMacRISC2PE 1.8.7d5

com.apple.driver.ndrv.NVDA,NVMac.0xdb1f3a0 0.0.4

com.apple.driver.AudioI2SControl 2.5.8f1

com.apple.driver.Apple02Audio 2.5.8f1

com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1

com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc5

com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.1

com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC 5.4.8

com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3

com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 1.7.0



Model: PowerMac3,6, BootROM 4.4.8f2, 2 processors, PowerPC G4 (3.3), 1.25 GHz, 768 MB

Graphics: kHW_NVidiaGeForce4TiItem, GeForce4 Ti 4600, spdisplays_agp_device, 128 MB

Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 256 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2600U-25330

Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2600U-25330

Modem: Dash2, UCJ, V.92, 1.0F, APPLE VERSION 2.6.7

Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0

Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-115D

Parallel ATA Device: ST3160023A, 149.05 GB

USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, (null) mA

USB Device: Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard, (null) mA

USB Device: Apple Extended USB Keyboard, (null) mA

Apr 4, 2013 7:55 PM in response to MajorMacintosh

I have not had luck with waking up from sleep mode (in my G3 and G4) and I have absolutely no idea why. I changed my energy saver preferences settings to never sleep and never put the hard drives to sleep, I only use the screen saver. Possibly the hard drive or a PCI/USB/FW peripheral doesn't wake up when it should and then the machine panics? I have no diagnosis or solution to the wake-from-sleep issue, other than to never sleep.

Apr 5, 2013 8:24 AM in response to MajorMacintosh

Hi All,

Just a update and observation.


I removed iStat will try later this morning how it handles sleep now.


My experience with sleep on these systems are if you have additional PCI card installed that generaly is the reason they fail to go to sleep on therir own, or create a kernal panic when forced to sleep by using the "Sleep Now" drop down menu. Clearly non Apple software can create issues with sleep.


Because this has a virgin system install only, I want to verify everything is top-notch before I install anything else.


See I purchased a new 1.25Ghz DP (MDD) in Spring of 2003, It got damaged in 2007 but I saved everything I could (guts wise, ie: GForce Ti Video Card, Hard Drives) and all the original manuals & discs the only thing I tossed was the box.


I will try the motherboard from the doner machine soon, the one I got the processors from. I noticed that board has a Bluetooth connection (Motherboard # 820-1474-A) does anyone know where I might get the Bluetooth Module for it? It the connection on the board next to the Airport Card.


Thanks Again Everyone!

Power Mac G4 MDD

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