10 Replies Latest reply: May 16, 2013 4:08 PM by Csound1
TellMe2 Level 1 Level 1

After installing Windows 8 using Boot Camp 5 on my MacBook Pro (Mountain Lion), do I need to worry about virus protection, increased vulnerability, etc. on either side?


MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)
Solved by TellMe2 on Apr 2, 2013 8:04 AM Solved

All of the following pursuades me NOT to go with an installation of Windows 8 on my MacBook. I guess nothing can replace one's own research.

 

 

Report from CNET Reveals Windows 8 Defender Fail:

http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-57556340-12/security-essentials-fails-lates t-av-test/

 

 

Quote from:  http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/best-antivirus-software-for- windows-8/

"However, according to performance test results from respected independent software labs, Defender is no match for the best antivirus for Windows 8 products: Bitdefender Antivirus Plus, Kaspersky Anti-Virus and Norton AntiVirus. We will show you how to pick virus protection and we invite you to read articles about antivirus software for Windows 8."

 

Quote from NotebookReview.com: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6624

"Microsoft has said that Defender on Windows 8 provides an acceptable minimum level of protection, and that it will disable itself automatically if another antivirus suite is installed (such as a Norton , McAfee, or Kaspersky suite, for example). As I see it, this is essentially the same as saying that it would be best to have a full-fledged third-party suite aboard, but that Defender will also keep you covered to an extent."

 

Quote from CSO Online: http://www.csoonline.com/article/721277/windows-8-security-unshaken-by-antivirus -vendor-s-claims

"What Microsoft has done is create a MINIMUM bar that all paid vendors need to exceed," IDC analyst Charles Kolodgy said by email." (caps mine)

 

Also from CSO Online: http://www.csoonline.com/article/721135/windows-8-gets-first-critical-patch-tues day-security-bulletins

"November 08, 2012 — Network World — Windows 8 hasn't even been on sale for a month yet but is already the recipient of three critical security updates via Microsoft's monthly Patch Tuesday security bulletins, each of which will block flaws that allow remote execution of code on targeted machines.

That means flaws in the operating system can be exploited by an attacker without the user of the machine executing a program or opening a document.

LEARN: The Windows 8 FAQA

WINDOWS 8 SECURITY: A no-brainerA

While the new operating system has been designed to be significantly more secure than its predecessors, it still contains legacy code from earlier operating systems, which may contribute to the problem, says Marcus Carey, a security researcher at Rapid 7."

Reply by Csound1 on Apr 2, 2013 7:30 AM Helpful

The AV software provided with W8 is excellent, I suggest that you use it.

 

(Windows Defender for Windows 8 is new, based on Microsoft Security Essentials)

Reply by Csound1 on Apr 2, 2013 8:09 AM Helpful

Windows will always be insecure, not installing it at all is the wisest move, but not for the security reasons.

 

If you cannot get an equivalent OSX app to do what you want to do on Windows there is no choice as to whether or not to use Windows. If you must use Windows, buy a Windows machine, they are cheap and Windows is included. If you must use a Mac, use a VM rather than Boot Camp.

 

If you must use Boot Camp, buy a Windows machine.

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  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    You need virus protection for Windows but Windows 8 includes it, make sure to keep it up to date.

  • TellMe2 Level 1 Level 1

    I suspect that the virus/malware protection included with Windows 8 is the standard junk put out by Microsoft--which leaves one needing a more robust defense system. Is that so, or has Microsoft improved since last I loathed my experience with them?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    The AV software provided with W8 is excellent, I suggest that you use it.

     

    (Windows Defender for Windows 8 is new, based on Microsoft Security Essentials)

  • TellMe2 Level 1 Level 1

    Do you have a web site which compares security systems and features to that of Windows 8. For Example, Norton vs. Avast vs. Ad Aware vs. AVG vs. Avira vs. Bit Defernder vs. BullGuard vs. Windows 8?

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    No, I hardly ever use 3rd party AV software, but stay away from everyone of the ones you mentioned (especially Norton)

     

    I have used AVG in the past, it is fairly benign but inferior to the supplied software in Windows 8.

  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9

    I use MSSE for years and yes there are easy to find reviews of all of them.

     

    MS free is based on their enterprise edition but for home.

     

    And I have tried and bought others, and gone back to MS as it is less trouble and works and no worries about update issues.

  • TellMe2 Level 1 Level 1

    All of the following pursuades me NOT to go with an installation of Windows 8 on my MacBook. I guess nothing can replace one's own research.

     

     

    Report from CNET Reveals Windows 8 Defender Fail:

    http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-57556340-12/security-essentials-fails-lates t-av-test/

     

     

    Quote from:  http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/best-antivirus-software-for- windows-8/

    "However, according to performance test results from respected independent software labs, Defender is no match for the best antivirus for Windows 8 products: Bitdefender Antivirus Plus, Kaspersky Anti-Virus and Norton AntiVirus. We will show you how to pick virus protection and we invite you to read articles about antivirus software for Windows 8."

     

    Quote from NotebookReview.com: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6624

    "Microsoft has said that Defender on Windows 8 provides an acceptable minimum level of protection, and that it will disable itself automatically if another antivirus suite is installed (such as a Norton , McAfee, or Kaspersky suite, for example). As I see it, this is essentially the same as saying that it would be best to have a full-fledged third-party suite aboard, but that Defender will also keep you covered to an extent."

     

    Quote from CSO Online: http://www.csoonline.com/article/721277/windows-8-security-unshaken-by-antivirus -vendor-s-claims

    "What Microsoft has done is create a MINIMUM bar that all paid vendors need to exceed," IDC analyst Charles Kolodgy said by email." (caps mine)

     

    Also from CSO Online: http://www.csoonline.com/article/721135/windows-8-gets-first-critical-patch-tues day-security-bulletins

    "November 08, 2012 — Network World — Windows 8 hasn't even been on sale for a month yet but is already the recipient of three critical security updates via Microsoft's monthly Patch Tuesday security bulletins, each of which will block flaws that allow remote execution of code on targeted machines.

    That means flaws in the operating system can be exploited by an attacker without the user of the machine executing a program or opening a document.

    LEARN: The Windows 8 FAQA

    WINDOWS 8 SECURITY: A no-brainerA

    While the new operating system has been designed to be significantly more secure than its predecessors, it still contains legacy code from earlier operating systems, which may contribute to the problem, says Marcus Carey, a security researcher at Rapid 7."

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    Windows will always be insecure, not installing it at all is the wisest move, but not for the security reasons.

     

    If you cannot get an equivalent OSX app to do what you want to do on Windows there is no choice as to whether or not to use Windows. If you must use Windows, buy a Windows machine, they are cheap and Windows is included. If you must use a Mac, use a VM rather than Boot Camp.

     

    If you must use Boot Camp, buy a Windows machine.

  • EDLIU Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.iphone
    iPhone

    Hi,

     

    I have an extra Norton NIS 2013 product key.

     

    Let me know if you need it.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Ed

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    Good God no.