nicolas michel
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Q: ARD for windows ?

Dear all

 

I'm during to invade a PC network with  Macs ;-)

The Windows based support team will greatly apperciate if they can remotely support mac from they PCs.

 

The problem is that from few versions, the Mac VNC server "VNC viewers may control screen with password" give me a login screen

instead of the logged user screen. For IT support, it's useless.

 

I found a VNC viewer software, Remotix, that handle Apple ARD authentication but the swiss keyboard mapping is not handled.

 

Is there any way to make the Apple VNC server share current session instead of opening new session ?

 

Or is there a way to install ARD on Windows ?

 

Or is there a Windows alternative to ARD ?

 

Or is there a plug-in for uVNC, RealVNC or TightVNC to handle Apple ARD authentication ?

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated !

 

Thanks

 

Nicolas Michel

Posted on Apr 5, 2013 2:28 AM

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  • by Daniel Ball,

    Daniel Ball Daniel Ball Apr 5, 2013 12:53 PM in response to nicolas michel
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    Apr 5, 2013 12:53 PM in response to nicolas michel

    A little off topic, but there is an ARD look alike for Windows.  Never used it, but have always had it bookmarked as it looked kewl.  http://italc.sourceforge.net

     

    Turning on VNC access for Windows I never thought it was encrypted.  Wouldn't trust it if it not encrypted.

  • by Templeton Peck,

    Templeton Peck Templeton Peck Apr 7, 2013 6:56 PM in response to nicolas michel
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    Apr 7, 2013 6:56 PM in response to nicolas michel

    Or is there a way to install ARD on Windows ?

     

    No

     

    Or is there a Windows alternative to ARD ?

     

    VNC

  • by nicolas michel,

    nicolas michel nicolas michel Apr 8, 2013 2:05 AM in response to Templeton Peck
    Level 1 (75 points)
    Apr 8, 2013 2:05 AM in response to Templeton Peck

    Thanks Daniel,

    italc is interesting, but it doesn't support Mac, so it doesn't solve my issue.

     

    Thanks Templeton

    VNC is not anymore a solution since Apple changed his VNC auth : VNC clients are not aware about it.

    And I don't want to install an additionnal VNC server.

     

    Well ...

    No idea ?

     

    Thanks !

  • by TeenTitan,

    TeenTitan TeenTitan Apr 15, 2013 9:13 PM in response to nicolas michel
    Level 4 (2,531 points)
    Mac OS X
    Apr 15, 2013 9:13 PM in response to nicolas michel

    it seems like some people are having some luck with vnc://user@address

     

    and some times rebooting vnc on the mac helps:

    ie:

    1. ssh into client
    2. sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/k ickstart -deactivate
    3. sudo /System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/Resources/k ickstart -activate

     

    And there is always Apple Product Feedback.

     

    And you could try realVNC.

  • by nicolas michel,

    nicolas michel nicolas michel Apr 16, 2013 12:10 AM in response to TeenTitan
    Level 1 (75 points)
    Apr 16, 2013 12:10 AM in response to TeenTitan

    Dear Teen Titan

     

    - Mac authentication is not handled by realVNC.

    - Restarting an application don't change a feature.

    - adressing the user in the URL, if no authentication module is installed, have no chances to help.

    - Feedback is totally usefull. If I thinked about it, Apple won't have stop xserve, they will have implemented zfs and they will have made an agrement to let us able to virtualize Mac OS X Server on Dell and HP servers. Sorry for the Apple strategy, it's my fault : I didn't explain to Apple what an enterprise need.

     

    So please, save your time and mine, read the question before to reply

     

    --

    Nicolas Michel

  • by John Lockwood,

    John Lockwood John Lockwood May 23, 2013 5:27 AM in response to nicolas michel
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    May 23, 2013 5:27 AM in response to nicolas michel

    I have not found (previously) a fully compatible ARD/VNC client for Windows that handles the new Mountain Lion connection method. I will have a look at the Remotix you mentioned which I did see why it was not suitable for yourself.

     

    However what I do use that works for Windows users, is to have the Mac running Apple Remote Desktop Admin to also have installed RealVNC Server configured to share the screen via a different port number so as to not conflict. I then on the PC use the RealVNC client to connect to the RealVNC server. This uses a username and password and is an encrypted connection. Once the PC is connected it can use the ARD Admin software to control other Macs.

     

    Yes this requires installing an additional VNC server - but only one copy and if it is the only solution available you have to stop complaining and use it

  • by John Lockwood,

    John Lockwood John Lockwood May 23, 2013 5:55 AM in response to John Lockwood
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    May 23, 2013 5:55 AM in response to John Lockwood

    Argh! Remotix also does not work properly for UK keyboards (even when at both ends). I have sent their support team an email.

  • by nicolas michel,

    nicolas michel nicolas michel May 23, 2013 8:01 AM in response to John Lockwood
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    May 23, 2013 8:01 AM in response to John Lockwood

    Thanks John

     

    Complaining is my favourite sport

    But you're right, at the end after studiing all other possibility, we'll finish by doing a such thing, even if it's not elegant.

     

    Bye

  • by Logic Repair-Remote Support,

    Logic Repair-Remote Support Logic Repair-Remote Support Mar 5, 2014 7:46 AM in response to nicolas michel
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    Mar 5, 2014 7:46 AM in response to nicolas michel

    Hi Nicolas,

    My company uses the meraki dashboard system manager networks to manage the computers. The client can be pushed out via (AD Active Drectoy, or ARD Apple Remote Desktop) to your windows computers and you can support the windows from a mac using eihter web browswer or built in VNC viewr."screen share" also, from the windows side you can support macs by using the the untra VNC application. its very easy to setup and it works. we support companys with 10-400 computers in mixed enviruoments. this was one of the biggest hurtels we had to endevor.

    I hope this message finds you well.

     

     

    Thanks,

     

    -John

  • by John Lockwood,

    John Lockwood John Lockwood Mar 5, 2014 8:40 AM in response to nicolas michel
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    Mar 5, 2014 8:40 AM in response to nicolas michel

    Supposedly now Remotix has fixed the keyboard mapping problem for international keyboard layouts. This is as of version 2.0.2 released in December 2013. I have not yet retested this issue.

     

    International keyboard input

    No headache entering text in multiple languages. Remotix fully supports international and multilanguage keyboard input.

  • by filipv-be,

    filipv-be filipv-be Aug 19, 2015 2:48 PM in response to John Lockwood
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    Aug 19, 2015 2:48 PM in response to John Lockwood

    Thnx, works better then the built-in client form Apple