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Lousy iMovie HD 6.0.2 playback -- stuttering video and audio

I've spent several weeks now working on a movie which I'm aiming to be about an hour long. Using iMovie HD 6.0.2, QuickTime Player 7.1, OSX 10.4.6 ...all the latest versions, it seems, on a G5 1.8GHz SP, with 1 GB of RAM and two internal drives (System on 80G, movie project on 300G Maxtor drive with lots of room to spare). Before starting iMovie, I close all other applications and relaunch the Finder to have things "clean" as possible. All external drives are shut off. Still....

...the playback quality is becoming so bad, I'm concerned that I won't be able to continue this project using iMovie. The sound is poor, the moving slider is jerky, the image is skippy as is the sound. Mouse actions are slow to respond, and I'm sick of seeing the rotating beachball.

What is wrong with this software??? _ I never had this problem with older versions of iMovie (e.g. version 3), with equally-large projects, on a slower machine (G4/450 with less memory and smaller drives).

If I complete it, will it still stutter once it's burned onto DVD using iDVD 6.0.2? __

Is this a plot to coerce users to buy the pricier Final Cut Pro Express? ____ (is FCPE immune from this problem? _)

The current situation is very bad. Is there a fix? ___



G5/1.8GHz SP 80GB Mac OS X (10.4.5) 1GB RAM, +300G internal, 4 external FW HD's

Posted on May 25, 2006 12:15 AM

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May 25, 2006 8:44 AM in response to SDIllini

You might also open Activity Monitor from Applications->Utilities and try and see if there's something running in the background that's using your resources.

Also, and this may have nothing to do with it, in iMovie Preferences->Playback->change to medium or lowest setting (I forget at the moment the actual wording).Several people were reporting that the Highest playback was causing yellow, green, and in my case, purple tints on their video.

Have you exported to QT yet? You may want to try that to see if the "choppy sound and video" remains after export.

May 26, 2006 12:10 AM in response to Adam Warner

I tried the above suggestions, one at a time, but the end result hasn't changed.
1) First, I moved LaCieBackup utility (& its associated Application support) to Trash, restarted the computer, opened iMovie, and played my movie but it was still jerky, with poor (buzzing) sound. I took out LaCie first because it had been generating a lot of activity in the Console screen, every minute or two, a message "...couldn't register hotkey....". I've never used LaCie Backup.
2) Next, I did the same with Flip4Mac (although it didn't appear in Activity Monitor) ....restarted etc. ...same result (no improvement).
3) I exported a 10 minute selection to QuickTime (the entire movie would have taken too long). This didn't change iMovie's poor performance, but the QT movie played fine (motion & sound OK).

I had set iMovie's preferences for playback so Quality was "Standard" (the lowest) and unchecked the box re keeping playhead centered.

I have also frequently Save'd my project to help keep things "clean", but that makes no difference to the overall performance.

I haven't emptied iMovie's trash. There's 5.41 GB in there. I don't want to empty it because I'm still editing, have lots more to do, and want to be able to restore any clips if needed.

At various times, I watched the Activity Monitor. Whenever I was playing back iMovie, the little graph was completely filled with vertical bars. The CPU usage for iMovie fluctuated between 40%-160%. Real memory ranged from less than 100 MB to over 480 MB, while virtual memory was about twice that. I wonder if this is the problem.... doesn't virtual memory entail constant hard-drive accesses? __ I didn't notice any other processes hogging as much resources as iMovie. There were close to 20 active processes displayed, most of which I have no idea what they're for.

I have 1GB of RAM, composed of 4 x 256MB DDR SDRAMs (PC3200U-30330). All are 'OK' according to System Profiler.

I wonder if more RAM would solve my problem? ________

G5/1.8GHz SP 80GB Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1GB RAM, +300G internal, 4 external FW HD's

May 26, 2006 5:12 AM in response to F. Farmer

More memory is always helpful, if you can afford to max it out, you should.

One more question, and I don't think it would have anything to do with the choppy playback, but in your original post you said the project is on a 300gb external and your internal is 80gb. How much free space do you have on the internal?

I wish I had a solution for you. I will continue to follow your post.

May 26, 2006 8:20 AM in response to Adam Warner

Just upgraded myself a couple days ago from iMovie 5 to 6.02. Like you, using all current software, on a 12" PB. Same problem.... choppy playback, although only in full screen mode. If I try it again with iMovie 5 (from backup), it plays fine.

Spent 45 minutes on phone with Apple support yesterday, but basically got nowhere. I have a presentation next week (this movie is only 12 minutes), and I'm going to use iMovie 5 to show it. Exporting, etc did not offer high quality.

Rather disappointing, but seems we're not the only ones with these problems (as noted in discussions).

May 26, 2006 12:18 PM in response to F. Farmer

I am having the same problems. In the past I have done 8 movies, all about 50 minutes long using iMovie 4 and 5 with no problems. I was using OS10.2 and earlier versions of Quicktime. When I upgraded to Quicktime 7, I began to have the jerky video and sound skipping. I was able to go back to Quicktime 6 and the problem cleared.

I then upgraded to iMovie 6 and again had the stuttering problems with skipped sound. I upgraded to OS 10.3 and still the same problems.

I have now gone back to iMove 5 which now again has the same problems. I am unable to go back to Quicktime 6 with OS 10.3.

Now I don't know what to do. I have never been so discouraged. Apple really has some problems here but although these discussions have been going on for many months they don't seem to be doing anything about it. I've used Apple since 1979, bought the first Mac in 1984, ran my business on a Mac network for years with great success. This is the first time that I feel really let down by Apple.


iMac G5, 512 MB, 1.8 GHz, iMovie 5.0 (94) Mac OS X (10.3.9)

May 26, 2006 4:20 PM in response to Adam Warner

Thanks, Adam

The 80G and 300G are both internal drives. They have 48G and 108G to spare, respectively. (the 80G drive is the system drive; my current movie projects are on the 300G drive). I have also tried working with projects on an external FW800 drive, but encountered the same problem of stuttering.

I see I'm not alone with this problem. Unfortunately, I don't have iMovie5 (I see, in this & other threads, that others have returned back to 5 from 6, for various reasons). I went from version 3 (on a G4) -- which worked fine, but couldn't handle widescreen 16:9 video -- to version 6 on this G5. Version 6 definitely has some serious problems, otherwise I quite like it.

Although extra RAM may improve some things, I doubt it's the cure for this because I was able to work very well with projects even larger (longer) than this one under iMovie3 on a G4/450 with only 640MB of RAM. It was slower rendering transitions & titles, and couldn't handle 16:9 which I'm using now.

I'll keep watching this thread, because I really can't continue very well with this problem. I haven't talked to Apple directly. I wonder how aware they are of this issue.

G5/1.8GHz SP 80GB Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1GB RAM, +300G internal, 4 external FW HD's

May 26, 2006 8:28 PM in response to F. Farmer

Hi!
Sorry you are having the same problem that I am having. I imported 17 min of raw video, that has now been edited down to about 6 minutes or so. I have a very complicated soundtrack, meaning a whole lot of "lapping-over of sound effects and so on. The video itself, seems to plays OK (it has simple edits) but now that the sound editing has gotten to the Ben-Hur stage, the sound skips, sputters, drags, you name it. And the beautiful little colored beach ball is starting to entertain me on a regular basis. It's maddening!
I have been told by Karsten in Germany, that iMovie is not intended for extensive editing. I believe this to be a fact. I have recently acquired Final Cut Express, and have not had the opportunity to get into it heavely, but I have a feeling it can handle anything you throw at it.
In FCE, you can have numerous audio tracks and also in the video. This has to be a big advantage!
In the meantime, what I have done to correct my issue, I have exported my project back to the camera, and then imported it back to iMovie, and then sent it to iDVD. I then set chapter markers and it has burned with no problemo. You can also go to "share" under the file menu, and send it to Quicktime to see if it compresses properly in a full quality setting. In the meantime, I am studying FCExpress as fast as I can. No more iMovie for me...not until the Apple heads fix it.
Hope this helps!
TEXASFLOOD

G4 Mirrored super drive Mac OS X (10.4.6)

May 27, 2006 1:28 AM in response to TEXASFLOOD

Hi Texas...

I don't think my movie is too complicated for iMovie. It's much longer than yours (final product will be just under an hour), but it's basically a serial string of clips, with cross dissolve being the most common transition. I usually extract the audio from each pair of clips that dissolve together, so that I have better control over the fade-out and overlapping fade-in of the live sound. I do have some music tracks added which I fade in & out where I fade out & in the live audio. I have some basic titles at the beginning, some subtitles on various clips (this is a travel video), and plan to have scrolling credit titles at the end. Nothing too out of the ordinary.

I've created a couple of dozen videos like this before using iMovie3 on a G4/450MHz 640MB PowerPC with no problems like this. (I switched to iMovie6 on a G5/1.8GHz 1GB RAM so I could do widescreen 16:9 editing and DVD burning). iMovie should be able to handle what I'm doing. Otherwise, there must be thousands of users out there having the same problems I am.

FCE is increasingly tempting, as this problem is really holding me up. I've got two other movie projects waiting to be edited which are now several months behind.

By the way, I've done a couple of test exports to QuickTime of a span of selected clips (which include several cross dissolves and overlapping sound etc.) from this movie and they play perfectly well in QT7. The problem is definitely to do with iMovie6.

Thanks for your feedback! Hope one of us finds a solution ...soon!

A thought just struck me: while I don't think additional RAM will fix it (I currently have 4x256MB), I wonder if it could have anything to do with the video card. Mine is a GeForce FX 5200. What does everybody else have, who are experiencing this problem?? ______ Naw, I doubt that's the problem... I can playback any DVD without any problems on this machine.

May 27, 2006 5:00 PM in response to F. Farmer

After searching the discussions, I now believe to solve my jerky problems I need to get back to Quicktime 6.5.2.
I've learned that the 6.5.2 reinstaller only works off Quicktime 7.0.1 and the 7.0.1 reinstaller that only works off Quicktime 7.0.4
Now the problem is that I have Quicktime 7.1
Does anyone know how to go back from 7.1?

6.5.2 reinstaller http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301505

7.0.1 reinstaller http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime701reinstallerforquicktime704.ht ml

Don

May 27, 2006 5:14 PM in response to F. Farmer

A little more on this iMovie problem...

Sometimes, just scrolling up & down the Clips pane can be a challenge. When sliding the 'elevator' up/down, it doesn't always respond immediately ...may have to wait a few seconds before it does. I've learned that if i just wait patiently for a half minute or so, to let something (I don't know what!) "settle down", then it will scroll more smoothly. This tactic doesn't help with editing in Timeline however.

Another little discovery...
(Background note: I don't drag my clips from the Clip Pane to ClipViewer line. Instead, I Copy & Paste them, because I want to keep the 'originals' in the pane in case I really mess up and need to start editing any particular clip all over again). My discovery is.... that if I select (one or more) clips in the Timeline or ClipViewer, it plays back very poorly -- so choppy that the audio is barely intelligible, and the video motion starts/skips/stops in a very jerky fashion. BUT, if I select the same clip(s) in the Clips Pane, and play them back, they play smoothly. I wonder if this will help to narrow down the problem.... It's mainly in the ClipViewer or Timeline.

I'm really at a loss as to what's causing this. And totally frustrated, as I cannot continue with my editing. It's impossible to work this way. iMovie6 is badly flawed. There should be no need to buy Final Cut just to get around this problem.

G5/1.8GHz SP 80GB Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1GB RAM, +300G internal, 5 external FW HD's

May 27, 2006 5:46 PM in response to F. Farmer

I am also having the same problem. Created a 12 minute movie in imove 5 and it worked fine. Installed imovie 6 and video and audio studder...bummer. Needed to get ilife06 to be able to burn dvd (my e-mac does not have a dvd burner). Can I go back to imovie5 and finish the movie and then burn in ilife06. Can I go back and forth? How?

Any help appreciated.

Larry

eMac Mac OS X (10.4.6) 700 MHz G4, Memory 384 MB

Lousy iMovie HD 6.0.2 playback -- stuttering video and audio

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