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Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)



I am working in Layout mode and am moving an object around. And if I move the object with my mouse to a region on the page, it disappears. I can see that it is there, but I becomes invisible. Elsewhere on the page, no issues.But if move the object with my arrows, it might not didsappear. A square doesn't disappear when moved with arrows, but a text box still disappears.


I don't think there is anything else on the layout page blocking visiblity and and I tried doing same with a fresh blank page within the document the issue still occurs.


I would appreciate help or suggestions on how to resolve this.





Larry Haber

Mac OS X (10.7.3), Pages 4.1
  • fruhulda Level 6 (15,120 points)

    Could take screen shots on how it looks?  You can use Cmd + Shift + 4 and drag the new cursor over the screen.

  • Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)

    Hi and thanks for responding.


    This is a screen shot of a page prior to the grouped object at the lower left disappearing. It is a square, without fill, having a line 0.5  grouped with a text box in which the outline of the textbox will print. The object is highlighted in the screen shot.

    1st screen shot.jpg

  • Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)

    And now, I move the object further down in the page in the doc, and the larger box disappears. The text in the text box disappears and in this case an outline to the text box is evident. If I were to move the object out of this area on my page, it all comes back.

    2nd screen shot.jpg


    Andy thouhts & suggestions would be greatly appreciated.




    Larry Haber

  • fruhulda Level 6 (15,120 points)

    What happens if you use Format > Bring to Front on the selected object?

  • Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)

    In a word-nothing- That was the first thing I had tried. I also hioghlighted the other objects and tried to send them back, no change. I also slected all the objects on the page and bringing front or forward to back didn't appear to provide a solution.

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 (29,960 points)



    Try doing your project in a blank Page Layout Template. I think your problems will disappear, and your objects won't.


    Alternately, make absolutely sure that all your objects are Floating and not Inline.



  • Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)



    thanks and I have been working with a blank Page Layout template. Since I am working wiht a layout, it isn't indicating whether then object of inline or floating as I am not sure, but suspect that doesn't matter here. But, I could be wrong. The section within the inspector is inaccessible.



  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 (34,572 points)

    Menu > View > Show Invisibles


    You simply have a combination of objects with Wrap set on and returns, spaces and other invisbles that are being pushed around by the wrap of the objects.


    When you move particular objects to certain positions they are causing other objects which are inline (part of the text) to be pushed off the page.


    You can elect to make all objects floating:


    click on object > Inspector > Wrap > Floating


    To turn off wrap:


    click on object > Inspector > Wrap > uncheck Object causes wrap



  • fruhulda Level 6 (15,120 points)

    In a Page Layout document the object are always floating.


    Does it matter which object you have at that problematic location?

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 (34,572 points)



    An object can be inline in a TextBox or Shape, whether in a Word Processing or Layout template.


    It can then be affected by the Wrap of other objects.



  • fruhulda Level 6 (15,120 points)

    Ok, Peter.  I didn't that one would do it so complicated. In this case the OP has grouped the objects sp the whole grouped should dissapear and not just one part.

  • Lawrence Haber Level 1 (5 points)



    Thank you for you interest here, but not sure I am seeing thing correctly.


    The inspector for the disappearing object is greyed out for inline or floating choices. Pls see the attached screen shot. The disappear object is invisible now except for the outline of a grouped text box. The text inside the box is invisible and a larger box diretcly above the text box is also invisible. I cannot chnage inline and floating since they are greyed out choices.


    Screen Shot 2013-04-10 at 3.38.58 PM.png


    Secondly, i turned on invisibles and that made no difference. My running susicion is that there is some form of invisible object that is hidding other objects from showing through when you are in the neighnborhood of this mysterious object, but I do not see such an object and see no sign of it.


    Also, as you can see I am not wrapping, but I do not think that would make a difference anyway since the disappeating obejct is not near a body of text.


    Not sure what to do and am beginning to think I ought to just move on.





  • Jeff Shenk Level 4 (2,737 points)

    In a layout document, all objects are floating unless they are contained within the text of a textbox or a shape. I don't imagine that, or the wrap settings mean much here.


    An object (or a grouped object) can only be on one page, but if you drag an object so that it spans the border between two pages. Pages displays the part that is on one page normally and it displays the part that overlaps the other page as a "ghost" image similar to what you are showing. I haven't played with it enough to figure out how Pages determines to which page the object is "attached."


    My guess, which is only a guess because I can't duplicate it, is that you are seeing a variation of a bug that some people have run into with long word processing documents where the user interface gets confused with respect to the page boundaries and can't select text toward the bottom of the page near the end of the document. Some part of the graphic processor thinks the bottom of the page is a few centimeters higher than it really is, so it is showing the object as if it is attached to the next page. My suspicion (again, just speculation) is that it is some kind of rounding error in the conversion between points in the document and pixels on the screen when the zoom is set to something other than 100%, which seems consistent with the problem getting progressively worse the further you go down a long document.


    If this is the case, some people have had (at least temporary) success with copying the entire contents and pasting into a new, clean document, but since I have never personally encountered the anomally, I don't have direct experience of that.

  • fruhulda Level 6 (15,120 points)

    Would you mind sending me a copy of the document, so I can have a look at it? You'll find my address if yu click on my blue name.

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