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Pages objects disappear

Hi,


I am working in Layout mode and am moving an object around. And if I move the object with my mouse to a region on the page, it disappears. I can see that it is there, but I becomes invisible. Elsewhere on the page, no issues.But if move the object with my arrows, it might not didsappear. A square doesn't disappear when moved with arrows, but a text box still disappears.


I don't think there is anything else on the layout page blocking visiblity and and I tried doing same with a fresh blank page within the document the issue still occurs.


I would appreciate help or suggestions on how to resolve this.


Best,



Larry Haber

Mac OS X (10.7.3), Pages 4.1

Posted on Apr 8, 2013 2:50 PM

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Apr 9, 2013 6:15 PM in response to Lawrence Haber

Menu > View > Show Invisibles


You simply have a combination of objects with Wrap set on and returns, spaces and other invisbles that are being pushed around by the wrap of the objects.


When you move particular objects to certain positions they are causing other objects which are inline (part of the text) to be pushed off the page.


You can elect to make all objects floating:


click on object > Inspector > Wrap > Floating


To turn off wrap:


click on object > Inspector > Wrap > uncheck Object causes wrap


Peter

Apr 10, 2013 12:46 PM in response to fruhulda

Gentlemen,


Thank you for you interest here, but not sure I am seeing thing correctly.


The inspector for the disappearing object is greyed out for inline or floating choices. Pls see the attached screen shot. The disappear object is invisible now except for the outline of a grouped text box. The text inside the box is invisible and a larger box diretcly above the text box is also invisible. I cannot chnage inline and floating since they are greyed out choices.


User uploaded file


Secondly, i turned on invisibles and that made no difference. My running susicion is that there is some form of invisible object that is hidding other objects from showing through when you are in the neighnborhood of this mysterious object, but I do not see such an object and see no sign of it.


Also, as you can see I am not wrapping, but I do not think that would make a difference anyway since the disappeating obejct is not near a body of text.


Not sure what to do and am beginning to think I ought to just move on.


Best,


Larry

Apr 10, 2013 1:33 PM in response to Lawrence Haber

In a layout document, all objects are floating unless they are contained within the text of a textbox or a shape. I don't imagine that, or the wrap settings mean much here.


An object (or a grouped object) can only be on one page, but if you drag an object so that it spans the border between two pages. Pages displays the part that is on one page normally and it displays the part that overlaps the other page as a "ghost" image similar to what you are showing. I haven't played with it enough to figure out how Pages determines to which page the object is "attached."


My guess, which is only a guess because I can't duplicate it, is that you are seeing a variation of a bug that some people have run into with long word processing documents where the user interface gets confused with respect to the page boundaries and can't select text toward the bottom of the page near the end of the document. Some part of the graphic processor thinks the bottom of the page is a few centimeters higher than it really is, so it is showing the object as if it is attached to the next page. My suspicion (again, just speculation) is that it is some kind of rounding error in the conversion between points in the document and pixels on the screen when the zoom is set to something other than 100%, which seems consistent with the problem getting progressively worse the further you go down a long document.


If this is the case, some people have had (at least temporary) success with copying the entire contents and pasting into a new, clean document, but since I have never personally encountered the anomally, I don't have direct experience of that.

Apr 10, 2013 1:52 PM in response to Lawrence Haber

Hi,


I have sent you the document to have a look at.


And, based on jeff Shenk's suggestion, I opened a brand new document, copied over the stuff on the page I had been showing and the disappearing did NOT reoccur in the brand new doc.


I am thinking that maybe it is an issue with the page size. The page size for the document is not a standard page size but is a custom defined page size and maybe that is at the core of the issue.


thanks very much all round.


-Larry

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