Paul Taylor8

Q: Cooking the MacBook Pro Logic Board

My 2008 MBP has been diagnosed with a logic board fault which will cost £400-ish ($600) to repair so I thought that with nothing to lose I'd try the logic board oven method.  As a repair solution it sounds a bit like the adrenaline heart shot in 'Pulp Fiction'.

 

The general consensus seems to be 325F for 7.5 minutes.

 

Does it matter if it's a fan oven ?

If so would that mean the temp. has to be slightly lower ?

Should I disconnect the oven fan and leave the dial at 325 ?

 

Anyone else done this?  How successful was it ?   Any tips ?

 

Thanks for any responses.

Posted on Apr 12, 2013 3:48 PM

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  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Apr 12, 2013 4:17 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Apr 12, 2013 4:17 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    I have seen a couple of post regarding this procedure.  Do a search of the discussions.  I suppose it is worth a try if there are no other options, but I still remain skeptical.

     

    Ciao..

  • by Paul Taylor8,

    Paul Taylor8 Paul Taylor8 Apr 14, 2013 3:27 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Apr 14, 2013 3:27 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    Just replying to say that I followed the procedure (mount on foil cones / temp at 325F at 7.5 mins) and re-installed my logic board, but sadly to no avail.

     

    HOWEVER,  I then did some further web research and found that some people recommended a temp of 375F and inverting the logic board. With nothing to lose I tried again and bingo - it worked ! (I'm replying using the reborn macbook pro)

     

    I noticed that the second time around I could detect a distinct whiff of solder in the oven, so perhaps previously it wasn't getting quite hot enough to reflow.

  • by Bimmer 7 Series,

    Bimmer 7 Series Bimmer 7 Series Apr 14, 2013 3:35 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Apr 14, 2013 3:35 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    Glad to hear your newly baked/roasted Macbook Pro works for you.

     

    Well done - now I know who to send a message to if I need my logicboard baked/roasted.

     

    cheers.

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Apr 14, 2013 5:19 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Apr 14, 2013 5:19 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    Solder will start melting at about 360 f so that your temperature increase was apparently the proper action.  Just this morning I had a discussion this very subject and I now am somewhat less skeptical than when  I first answered you.  In the end, results count.  I was told that first thermal paste should be removed prior the operation and the reapplied after completion of the 'meltdown'. 

     

    Good luck.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Paul Taylor8,

    Paul Taylor8 Paul Taylor8 Apr 16, 2013 2:39 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Apr 16, 2013 2:39 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Regarding the thermal paste / heat sink compound, yes I did remove all the old stuff and replaced with fresh.  I also blew out the cooling pipework assembly underneath the logic board - also the rear vent and fans to get rid of any accumulated lint / fluff.

     

    The Macbook Pro in question was previously owned so I don't know how careful the previous owner may have been with ensuring that the rear vent remains clear (I've seen people using them in bed with the machine sunk into the duvet !).  I have a theory that if the machine gets too hot through 'choking' - and the solder starts to reach critical temp. - that the mechanical shock of making keystrokes could make the connections of surface mount components beneath the keyboard progressively weaker until they fail.

  • by damien60,

    damien60 damien60 Apr 27, 2013 3:00 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Apr 27, 2013 3:00 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    Hi,

    Have many people had any luck getting their faulty 2008 macbook Pro repaired or replaced recently.
    Two months ago my 2008 Macbook Pro's screen started to freeze and was garbled. I took it to a local authorized repair centre who said that they ran a test and it would cost €700.00 to replace the logic board.
    I rang Apple to say that I had heard there was a known issue with these Mac's. They said that they would ring me back.
    A Customer service agent called me back to say that there Was an issue with some graphics cards but my fault was the logic board.
    I said that it would cost me €700.00 to repair it, and it was more or less making the device beyond econimical repair.
    I sent a few emails to Apple customer service hoping for a positive result.
    I asked that I hoped Apple would either:

    Cover the cost of the known reapir.
    Apple collect the laptop and themselves check the fault.

    Apple partially pay towards the repair.
    Apple responded by saying that "as you mentioned You could have the machine checked somewhere else". ( Note I didnt request that I check it somewhere else).

    A lot of these "high end" machines were sold with faulty components. I find it a sad day that as someone who has macbook pro, imac, ipad and has has three iphone to threat their customers like this is a let down.

    I am taking Apple to the small claims court as a common sense is not prevailing this time.
    Thank you Apple.

  • by Starhawk,

    Starhawk Starhawk Mar 9, 2014 6:21 PM in response to damien60
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    Mar 9, 2014 6:21 PM in response to damien60

    I just wanted to add, I tried this on my 2007 Macbook Pro today and it totally worked. I was so impressed. I used 375 degrees for 7.5 minutes. I also added new thermal paste.

     

    I had a previous issues where I was getting a wavy distortion in dark areas of the screen. This has now been fixed as well

  • by ZipperCat,

    ZipperCat ZipperCat Apr 21, 2014 1:57 PM in response to Starhawk
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    Apr 21, 2014 1:57 PM in response to Starhawk

    Thanks for all the suggestions.

     

    As a last resort, I did the bake method again (did it once before) and it came back again.

     

    I doubt this is going to last very long, but at least it's once again functioning.

     

    I'm wondering if there is anywhere that can proffessionally resolder the GPU to the board to fix it properly.

  • by TriplePAF,

    TriplePAF TriplePAF Sep 2, 2014 10:32 AM in response to ZipperCat
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    Sep 2, 2014 10:32 AM in response to ZipperCat

    I did it today to with my 2 years and 9 months old 17" MACBook Pro early 2011 and the AMD video card came back to life. :-)


    I baked the Logic Board on 180 degree for 7.5 minutes in a pre heated oven. A few points before you start this procedure:


    Remove all Cooling Pasta with Aceton and lots of swabs.

    Make the print dust free with compressed air.

    Create a few small holders from aluminium foil so that the print can rest on it. I placed the holder equal with the screw holes on the outer-site (4 pieces).

    The oven should have a wel circulated air flow.

    You should have a technical background how to unmount and mount electronic stuff properly.

    Proper Apple repair Tools.

    An Apple repair manual that covers the model in question.

    Google example cases (Logic Board Oven).

    Some luck. ;-)



    Peter.   

  • by evening1,

    evening1 evening1 Nov 18, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Nov 18, 2014 9:21 AM in response to Paul Taylor8

    I did this last night with my early 2011 15" Macbook Pro.

    I placed the MLB GPU side down, elevated on  aluminum foil balls and positioned two balls directly beneath the exposed GPU chips.

    Then baked @ 375F for 7.5 minutes in a pre-heated convection oven.

     

    I'll be damned - it worked!

     

    bye-bye grey screen...

  • by Kotsous,

    Kotsous Kotsous Sep 2, 2016 1:55 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Sep 2, 2016 1:55 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    Hello I have baked my MBPro and it seems that it is functioning ok exept from the fact that the display is not clear enough in high resolution and it changes colors. To be honest I didn't follow the guidance precisely  (as it has to do with the temperature degrees). I don't know if it is something simple that has been damaged and can be fixed or not but as I said  apart from that everything else seems to function properly I left it powered on for three days with enough programmas opened plus i played batman asylum (heavy game) enough videos on YouTube and it did not crash as it had been done before baking.

  • by JimmyCMPIT,

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT Sep 2, 2016 1:58 PM in response to TriplePAF
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    Sep 2, 2016 1:58 PM in response to TriplePAF

    That's 180C not 180F?

    What do you do with the cooling pasta after? Garlic and sundried tomato come to mind.

  • by Harik,

    Harik Harik Oct 19, 2016 8:19 PM in response to Paul Taylor8
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    Oct 19, 2016 8:19 PM in response to Paul Taylor8

    this is amazing. i tried on my macbook pro 2012 13" and it worked like charm. i was bit suspicious so i shoot a video before i start doing it. it worked so i've uploaded A video on YouTube. Here is the link if you're interested. https://youtu.be/lCHTgYkBXoY