Dugario

Q: Mirroring MacBook Pro onto AppleTV

All of my computers, peripherals, etc.. are all Mac and I just recently picked up AppleTV.

 

One of the functions that I have been really happy with is the option to be able to mirror my phone or pad onto my tv screen.

 

I have been reading though that some MacBook Pro's will mirror and some won't. How do I determine if mine won't?? Just the fact that the mirror option isn't in my display options?

 

I purchased the Macbook in June of 2011 so about a year and a half ago.

15-inch, Early 2011

Processor  2.2 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory  8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

Graphics  Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB

Software  Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)

 

 

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks

Doug

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.5)

Posted on Apr 14, 2013 11:32 AM

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  • by mende1,Helpful

    mende1 mende1 Apr 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to Dugario
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    Apr 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to Dugario

    Welcome to the Apple Support Communities

     

    AirPlay Mirroring requires an Early 2011 or newer MacBook Pro, so your computer is compatible. Read > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5404

     

    You have two options:

     

    1. Upgrade to OS X Mountain Lion. After upgrading to Mountain Lion, you will see the AirPlay icon on the menu bar. You can purchase OS X Mountain Lion in the App Store. Make a backup before upgrading to OS X Mountain Lion.

     

    2. Continue using Lion, and use a third-party app like AirParrot > http://www.airparrot.com

  • by Kappy,Helpful

    Kappy Kappy Apr 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to Dugario
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    Apr 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to Dugario

    About AirPlay and Airplay Mirroring

     

    AirPlay Mirroring requires a second-generation Apple TV or later, and is supported on the following Mac models: iMac (Mid 2011 or newer), Mac mini (Mid 2011 or newer), MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer), and MacBook Pro (Early 2011 or newer). For non-qualifying Macs you can try using Air Parrot.

     

    Several Apple Articles Regarding AirPlay

     

    Apple TV (2nd and 3rd gen)- How to use AirPlay Mirroring

    How to set up and configure AirPort Express for AirPlay and iTunes

    About AirPlay Mirroring in OS X Mountain Lion

    iTunes 10- About playing music with AirPlay

    Troubleshooting AirPlay and AirPlay Mirroring

    Using AirPlay

     

    Thanks to the $15 Beamer, AirPlay streaming is still possible on Macs  that do not support Airplay and mirroring.

    Another solution is the Air Parrot.

  • by Dugario,

    Dugario Dugario Apr 14, 2013 2:03 PM in response to mende1
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    Apr 14, 2013 2:03 PM in response to mende1

    So, seeing as my MacBook "should" work but doesn't comes down to a cash grab and a need to upgrade to Mountain Lion??

     

    I say "should" because it falls under the description you typed out.

  • by mende1,Solvedanswer

    mende1 mende1 Apr 14, 2013 2:04 PM in response to Dugario
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    Apr 14, 2013 2:04 PM in response to Dugario

    AirPlay Mirroring is a Mountain Lion feature, and that's why you can't mirror your computer to the Apple TV now, so you have to upgrade to Mountain Lion. If you don't want, as I told you, download AirParrot

  • by clay58,

    clay58 clay58 Apr 14, 2013 6:22 PM in response to Dugario
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    Apr 14, 2013 6:22 PM in response to Dugario

    It is no cash grap. You can upgrade to Mountian Lion for a measly $19.99 or not. The choice is yours. Apple added the new feature to Mountain Lion which is a big plus. For that measly $19.99 you get Airplay Mirroring and 200 other new features. I would call that a bargain. Or you can purchase Air Parrot for $9.99. But griping will never make it work.

  • by KarolHI,

    KarolHI KarolHI May 27, 2013 4:00 PM in response to mende1
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    May 27, 2013 4:00 PM in response to mende1

    I have upgraded to OS X Mountain Lion but I still do not see the Airplay Icon on the menus bar ... Do I need to open or do something to enable the airplay icon ??? Need help too

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew May 27, 2013 5:11 PM in response to KarolHI
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    May 27, 2013 5:11 PM in response to KarolHI

    What model is your computer? It needs to be 2011 or later. Did you check the troubleshooting guide?

  • by Tonka_Blue2,

    Tonka_Blue2 Tonka_Blue2 Jun 24, 2013 2:31 PM in response to Dugario
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    Jun 24, 2013 2:31 PM in response to Dugario

    I echo your question(s) and concern(s) as I find that my mid 2010 macbook pro is not supported when it comes to airplay.  If you scroll right to the bottom of the Apple TV website you find the small print with regard to mirroring.  Unfortunatally I didn't read the small print until after I purchased Apple TV.  The website graphic of a MacBook misled me to believe my less than 2 year old purchase of a macbook would work.  So, the question in my mind that remains unanswerable by Apple Support... "why can a third party (AirParrot) get a mirroring function to work, but the geniuses at Apple development can't?".  Further, It strikes me odd that my system report even shows "Mirror" as OFF.  Almost like its a variable parameter that could be turned on if Apple wanted to turn it on. I did turn the mirror function on in my Display properties.  It struck me as odd that the property says "Show mirroring options in menu bar if available".  That was my first clue that I was in for trouble.  It's not often that one finds a property that is open ended like that.

     

    Hummm... yet another newly released so called "feature" that is not backwards compatible.   Buyer beware.  I never thought I'd have to say that about Apple products.  

     

    1. AirPlay is available on all devices running iOS 4.3 or later. Some features require the latest software. Second-generation Apple TV or later required.
    2. AirPlay Mirroring is available with iPad 2 or later; iPhone 4S; iPhone 5; iPod touch (5th generation); and iMac (Mid 2011 or newer), Mac mini (Mid 2011 or newer), MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer) and MacBook Pro (Early 2011 or newer) with Mountain Lion.
    3. Dual-screen capability is available with iPad 2 or later, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5 and iPod touch (5th generation).

    NVIDIA GeForce 320M:

     

      Chipset Model:          NVIDIA GeForce 320M

      Type:          GPU

      Bus:          PCI

      VRAM (Total):          256 MB

      Vendor:          NVIDIA (0x10de)

      Device ID:          0x08a0

      Revision ID:          0x00a2

      ROM Revision:          3533

      Displays:

    Color LCD:

      Display Type:          LCD

      Resolution:          1280 x 800

      Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

      Main Display:          Yes

      Mirror:          Off

      Online:          Yes

      Built-In:          Yes

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Jun 24, 2013 2:48 PM in response to Tonka_Blue2
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    Jun 24, 2013 2:48 PM in response to Tonka_Blue2

    Native mirroring requires the newer chip in order to do the video encoding, the requirements are also listed on the Mountain Lion page. Airparrot is done through software and relying on the CPU, the results are mixed.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5404

  • by clay58,

    clay58 clay58 Jun 24, 2013 6:57 PM in response to Tonka_Blue2
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    Jun 24, 2013 6:57 PM in response to Tonka_Blue2

    I purchaed Air Parrot for my 2009 iMac running Mountian Lion. I have found AirParrot to work perfectly and at $10 a bargain.

  • by jlefevre1,

    jlefevre1 jlefevre1 Jun 25, 2013 1:11 PM in response to Dugario
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    Jun 25, 2013 1:11 PM in response to Dugario

    I also have a 2010 MBP with Mountain Lion so no air play. I purchased Air Parrott. It works pretty well. One bug exists somewhere in relation to Keynote. I have my presentations set up to use dual displays with the presenter display on the MBP and the presentation on 1080P on the second display ( extended desktop ? )  Works great hardwired to the second display. Using Air Parrott when I hit play on the ketynote presentation it puts up the message that not enough video ram is available and to change the color resolution from millions to thousands.

     

    This is a bogus message in my estimation. First off there is no way to do that. Second i tried a test. With my computer on wireless I started up air Parrott, turned on extended display, Put Safari in the extended display on the Apple TV using Air Parrott. Brought up the Apple web site and went to the WWDC keynote and started it playing and sent it full screen. It was in HD or near it. So now I have the wireless router streaming the video to my computer, air play is putting it on the estended desktop and sending it back out the same iwreless connection to the Apple TV, with audio, and I still have my original MBP desktop functional. Granted things on the desktop are slow but the ATV is keeping up just fine.

     

    I didn't evven bother to check CPU usage but if this was not using a lot of CPU time and all that the MBP Intel HD graphics with 288 mb of memory could stand, then I'll eat my hat. Surely fixed, non animated images on keynote can't be more demanding that this.

     

    JIm

  • by jsfitz22,

    jsfitz22 jsfitz22 Jun 30, 2013 4:28 PM in response to vazandrew
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    Jun 30, 2013 4:28 PM in response to vazandrew

    Why then does airplay work fine using iTunes on a Macbook mid 2007?  I also tried AirParrot and the results were not good.  Seems to me like Apple could get this to work, though they just want people to have to upgrade computers (and OSX).

  • by vazandrew,

    vazandrew vazandrew Jun 30, 2013 4:39 PM in response to jsfitz22
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    Jun 30, 2013 4:39 PM in response to jsfitz22

    That's because it's simply pushing video and audio. Mirroring is completely different, and native use requires the newer chip for video encoding (it is displaying your computer activity in real time). Apple could have extened support to older machines but the results would have been mixed (similar to Airparrot).