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Why is iPhone Shuffle not really random?

Here's how it works: I put music on shuffle and, out of the first 10 songs, 6 are Coldplay. I restart and shuffle again. Out of the next 10 songs, 5 are Dave Matthews. I restart and, out of the next 10 songs, 4 are Pearl Jam and 3 are Yo Yo Ma. I have three songs from Wicked on my phone and this morning's shuffle session played all three of them back-to-back.


Am I doing something wrong or is this just the way Apple shuffle works? It's rare that my shuffle is ever actually random to the point of not playing the same artist within 3 songs of each other. This has been the case on all of my iPhones so far.

iOS 6.1.3, iPhone 5

Posted on Apr 17, 2013 12:59 PM

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Posted on Apr 17, 2013 2:45 PM

Theorectically, if Shuffle were truly random (computers are only capable of pseudo-randomness), you could hear every album you have in track order. It is unlikely but no more unlikely than any other combination of songs. What you want is not truly random, you want a more even mixture. Once upon a time, there was a setting in iTunes that made shuffle less random by creating a better mix. I don't recall if it's still there or if it carried over, in any way, to iOS devices.

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Apr 17, 2013 2:45 PM in response to DanJetta

Theorectically, if Shuffle were truly random (computers are only capable of pseudo-randomness), you could hear every album you have in track order. It is unlikely but no more unlikely than any other combination of songs. What you want is not truly random, you want a more even mixture. Once upon a time, there was a setting in iTunes that made shuffle less random by creating a better mix. I don't recall if it's still there or if it carried over, in any way, to iOS devices.

May 23, 2013 10:39 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

This issue is a perennial issue which has never been resolved. Using an add-on App may improve the experience for some but does not resolve the issue. The True Shuffle Pro "solution" doesn't address the overall issue of shuffling your entire music collection across several devices.


Let's take another case. Say you primarily use an iPod running iOS 2.0 or earlier. Apple currently sells three different styles of iPods that won't run True Shuffle Pro to hack the issue discussed here. Meg was pointing out that while "true" randomness wouldn't be expected, the annoying state of Shuffle is that even if you left that one iPod Classic playing for a year and you had over 100G of music on it you could expect to hear some songs consistently — on some days two or three times in the same day — where other songs would NEVER get selected.


Some have suggested resetting the counters, but besides being another ineffective hack, it entirely misses the point. I think if the Apple iTunes developers tried, they could develop a solution to a 10+ year issue.

Why is iPhone Shuffle not really random?

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