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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Apr 18, 2013 12:19 PM in response to jcmurphy1971
Grant Bennet-Alder
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Apr 18, 2013 12:21 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby jcmurphy1971,I'll have to check that. Is the OS defaulted to not use 64-Bit Kernel? If so, how do I turn it on?
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Apr 18, 2013 12:26 PM in response to jcmurphy1971
Grant Bennet-Alder
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DesktopsSorry for the delay. I realized when I looked at that, mine was not turned on, so I had to do this and re-boot:
OS X: Starting up with the 32-bit or 64-bit kernel
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Apr 18, 2013 12:28 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby jcmurphy1971,I'll take a look and report back later. Once in 64-Bit model, will that force the apps that are 64 Bit capeable to utilize all available RAM?
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Apr 18, 2013 12:34 PM in response to jcmurphy1971
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Apr 18, 2013 12:34 PM
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DesktopsThat ALLOWS a single Application to allocate and use over 4MB of RAM, if it chooses to.
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Apr 18, 2013 12:36 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby jcmurphy1971,And that applies to Final Cut X and Compressor 4 I believe, which are the 2 applications I need to speed up specifically.
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by Grant Bennet-Alder,Apr 18, 2013 12:45 PM in response to jcmurphy1971
Grant Bennet-Alder
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DesktopsYou DO want to be running that way, if your Mac supports it.
Whether that is the end of your search for better performance remains to be seen.
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Apr 18, 2013 12:45 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby jcmurphy1971,looking ahead... if my machine IS booting into 64 bit mode, what other possibilites are there for the machine not usin all of it's RAM?
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Apr 18, 2013 12:57 PM in response to jcmurphy1971by The hatter,You aren't taxing it much.
Maybe it is cpu bound.
memory can be in use but not 'used' as well, as applications are aable to they will load and work on data files in memory and with more memory hold more data in RAM.
if each process (and an application can have more than one process or thread or child process) each of which may want to grab and allocate memory.
CS6 is one app where 24GB is a good starting point, but some users bump it up to 48 or 64GB RAM.
pageouts are a sign an app or OS is starved not that it has enough or ideal amount.
32-bit apps were limited to allocating 3.5GB per process, and address space.
if you have 4x2GB then realize that 3x8GB or 4x8GB for some users and applicatoins is common.
All your drivers, plug-ins and such should be 64-bit capable.
making extensiosn and drivers and plugins that were 32 and 64-bit was clumbersome and more work. Being able to be Intel only 64-bit applications means that some things like TurboTax 2012 this year would only run on 10.6.8 and above because it used new compilers and code which should make for more stable easier to test and run better.
Graphic cards were also being limited by 32-bit it seems and having Graphic cards for some reason with more than 1.5GB VRAM then 2GB, while drivers are just beginning to allow and make better use of 3 and 4GB VRAM.
I have no idea what the hardware requirements in the future for higher resolution and higher def video will be but they can now begin to and all this talk of 4k format.
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Apr 18, 2013 1:03 PM in response to The hatterby jcmurphy1971,with Final Cut X being built of the 64 bit platform I would assume I would have more RAM being used, especially during renders. Unless of course Grant is correct and my machine is running in 32 bit mode.
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Apr 18, 2013 1:09 PM in response to jcmurphy1971by The hatter,A. you have to boot in 64-bit mode
B. Final Cut is one of those apps that is trailing and due for and in much need of being updated
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3989
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3773
FAQ http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4287
http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-64bit.html
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Apr 18, 2013 1:15 PM in response to The hatterby jcmurphy1971,Final Cut X was fully updated in 2011. Are you saying you feel it needs another overhaul? I use both Final Cut 7 and X and feel with the latest update of X, Apple is making strides to appease the Pro users.
In any event, once I get to my Mac later, I will report back on the 32/64 Bit status.
Thanks again guys for your help so far.
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Apr 18, 2013 1:39 PM in response to jcmurphy1971by The hatter,There are a LOT of grumbling going on when X dropped features and yes it is getting those and other features back and improved. What comes out in 2011 was worked on the year or two before so even '11 when Lion came out is behind.
Check out news adn threads in the FCX forum is the best way.
Final Cut Pro X was originally released in 2011, but was immediately met with sharp criticism by video editors, who complained that the software was actually missing features that had been in previous versions of Final Cut. Some of those components have been restored, but Apple is still dealing with the fallout of its original design decisions.
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Apr 18, 2013 4:25 PM in response to The hatterby jcmurphy1971,So my machine DOES have 64-bit enabled. Now wondering where to look next.
