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AppleTalk printing with Graphite AirPort Base Station doesn't work

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Pierre Igot Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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May 27, 2006 10:46 AM
I find this hard to believe, yet it appears to be true…

My new MacBook (black) works just fine with my old Graphite AirPort Base Station when it comes to connecting to the Internet.

But the MacBook is simply unable to "see" the AppleTalk printers that I have connected to the Graphite ABS via Ethernet. Even with AppleTalk enabled on the AirPort connection on the MacBook, the MacBook simply cannot see the printers. My other (PowerPC) Macs can see and use the printers just fine, of course.

I phoned AppleCare about this and they tell me that my Graphite BS is no longer supported, so they can't help me.

I can't believe this. The BS is working just fine… It's just a decision made by Apple not to support AppleTalk printing via the Graphite BS on Intel Macs that is now forcing me to buy a new AirPort BS.

Grrr.
MacBook (black), Mac OS X (10.4.6)
  • Gregory Meach Level 3 Level 3 (930 points)
    Hi Pierre,

    Welcome to the state of "progress"

    Seriously though, what is Appletalk like more than 15 years old. It's time to upgrade your network. Why not just use IP printing, all OS X software works with that.

    Hopefully you can get a work around.

    PS you do know that OS 9 is also not support on your new MacBook, right?

    Cheers
    MacBook / PowerBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.6)
  • Gregory Meach Level 3 Level 3 (930 points)
    Pierre,

    I meant no disrespect.

    I believet this is one of the reason Apple products are far superior to anything offered in the PC world especially when compared to Microsoft software. Apple draws the line, steps over it and moves forward, progress. While I can appreciate your situation I am glad Apple makes, lets call them quantum shifts. It makes for much better and more reliable products. Getting caught in the tail wind does indeed suck.

    I did not have any real need for a new laptop (except I love the wide screen) but I have been watching the slow shift from PowerPC to Intel and I do not want to get left on the side line. So... my wife and I have new MacBook's. I'll sell my year plus old PowerBook. I will also upgrade both of my PowerPC Mac Mini's. Why, because I want to "keep" up. If along the way my Airport Extreme BS doesn't work and I have to purchase something newer, then I will.

    The opposite of this can be seen in the sludge of backwards compatibility that Microsoft calls an operating system.

    I hope you can find a work around for your problem. Perhaps you can pick up a used Airport Extreme on eBay or something (if they work with Appletalk).

    Regards,

    MacBook / PowerBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.6)
  • infinite vortex Level 7 Level 7 (21,400 points)
    nsnowingJust to let you know that I've also had the same issue when it comes to AppleTalk devices over wireless. While I have never found the real cause of it I believe it has something to do with a firewall somewhere blocking the AT port traffic.

    This goes for both Apple base stations as well as 3rd party base stations.
    Mac mini Core Duo 1.66GHz 2GB/80GB/SD ; PowerBook G4 1.25GHz 1GB/80GB/SD, Mac OS X (10.4.6), Dell 2405FPW ; Maxtor OneTouch 250GB ; Pioneer DVR-109BK ; iSight ; iPod 4G 40GB
  • Chris Habig Level 4 Level 4 (2,220 points)
    This was a known problem with the first Intel Macs. But Apple supposedly fixed this problem with 10.4.6. What version of OS X are you running?

    Also, since wireless Appletalk printing was originally broken with the MacBook Pro and was fixed with 10.4.6, perhaps 10.4.7 will fix it for the MacBook too.

    Chris
    Powerbook 12 1.5GHz, 100GB, Superdrive, Mac OS X (10.4.4)
  • infinite vortex Level 7 Level 7 (21,400 points)
    nsnowingNot to really ruin your day although I've never found AppleTalk to work over wireless with whatever Mac I was using nor with whatever wireless access point (Airport Extreme, Airport Express and 3com OfficeConnect Wiless 11g) I was using. And that currently goes for my Intel Mac mini, PowerBook G4 (2 of them) and iBook G3, all of which are running Mac OS X 10.4.6 (except for a PowerBook which is running Mac OS X Server 10.4.6). As soon as I use cable it all goes perfectly with all of these Macs.

    By the way, my AppleTalk device is an Apple LaserWriter 12/640PS.
    Mac mini Core Duo 1.66GHz 2GB/80GB/SD ; PowerBook G4 1.25GHz 1GB/80GB/SD, Mac OS X (10.4.6), Dell 2405FPW ; Maxtor OneTouch 250GB ; Pioneer DVR-109BK ; iSight ; iPod 4G 40GB
  • infinite vortex Level 7 Level 7 (21,400 points)
    nsnowingI find it surprising that you haven't been able to maake AppleTalk printing work

    That makes two of us! What annoys me the most about it is that I do nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to both the infrarstucture nor setup of our network.

    Maybe it has to do with your actual printer.

    Doubtful. If it works fine under an Ethernet connection it should work exactly the same under a wireless connection. When it comes to the printer nothing is different. It does have in-built Ethernet so there's no way there's an issue with a bridging device.

    Now that's really ancient technology .

    Snicker all you like . This thing's been a real workhorse for us and I'll be sad to let it go.
    Mac mini Core Duo 1.66GHz 2GB/80GB/SD ; PowerBook G4 1.25GHz 1GB/80GB/SD, Mac OS X (10.4.6), Dell 2405FPW ; Maxtor OneTouch 250GB ; Pioneer DVR-109BK ; iSight ; iPod 4G 40GB
  • infinite vortex Level 7 Level 7 (21,400 points)
    nsnowingWhat I find particularly surprising in your case is that you've never been able to get it to work.

    You're telling me!!

    Maybe it's something to do with the "flavour" of Ethernet used by the LaserWriter?

    I'm starting to think anything's possible. Although it's going to get replaced sometime soon with a colour laser printer so I'm not longer too bothered. In any case, using an LPR works fine all round.

    How old is the LaserWriter exactly?

    It's 7-8 years old. and still works a dream.

    Which kind of Ethernet connection is it?

    It's got one of those funny plugs that required an adapter that Apple used for a while. I can't remember what they're called but they were rather common at the time.

    But hey… wasn't you the one with the problem?!
    Mac mini Core Duo 1.66GHz 2GB/80GB/SD ; PowerBook G4 1.25GHz 1GB/80GB/SD, Mac OS X (10.4.6), Dell 2405FPW ; Maxtor OneTouch 250GB ; Pioneer DVR-109BK ; iSight ; iPod 4G 40GB
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