page numbering

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page numbering

Trying to get lower-case roman numerals applied to first six pages of a document (i copyright page, ii foreward, iii author's note, iv TOC, etc.) and then have regular numbers start at beginning of chapter one, continuing 1, 2, 3 etc.

However, when I use auto-numbering, it will override whatever numeral type has been previously chosen. In other words, it seems I can only have roman letters or regular numerals throughout, not a series of each.

Anyone know of a fix or workaround?

thanks

MacBook Air, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Apr 23, 2013 4:16 PM

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Answer 1

Apr 23, 2013 6:28 PM in response to SaltSeaShark

Divide them by inserting a Section Break, then:

Inspetor > Layout > Section > Configuration > uncheck Use previous headers and footers

Peter

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Answer 2

SaltSeaShark Author

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Apr 24, 2013 12:53 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thanks Peter,

I'm using section breaks and have tried unchecking 'Use Previous Headers and Footers' but problem remains, can't combine roman with arabic numerals.

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Answer 3

SaltSeaShark Author

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Apr 24, 2013 3:29 AM in response to SaltSeaShark

Peter, thanks again for your help.

I did finally get around to RTFM and it states I can't have both:

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Answer 4

Apr 24, 2013 3:41 AM in response to SaltSeaShark

I must have missed where you mentioned that you were talking about Footnotes.

Even on re-reading it seems you are talking about page numbers.

Peter

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Answer 5

SaltSeaShark Author

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Apr 24, 2013 3:50 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

You're right. I'm wrong, again.

I am/was talking about page numbers.

On re-reading the manual, there's precious little on page numbers:

... and the section immediately following goes into details of how to change roman/arabic numerals, which I mistook to refer to page numbers.

(without wishing to hijack thread, i need to figureout how to mark question as un-solved. Not only wrong, but self-congrat bad form.)

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Answer 6

fruhulda

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Apr 24, 2013 3:51 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Nor can I see anything about footnotes in the initial posting.

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Answer 7

Yellowbox

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Apr 24, 2013 4:10 AM in response to SaltSeaShark

Hi SSS,

I too had a look through the manual and I could not find a way to change from Roman page numbers in one section to Arabic in the next section. I followed Peter's advice: uncheck Use previous headers and footers

I used Menu > Insert > Page Number and could use only Arabic numerals.

I used Menu > Insert > Auto Page Numbers... and found Roman and Arabic, but all footers changed.

I feel you must be right; they can not be combined in a document.

Plan B.

In your first section footer, delete the page number field. Manually type Roman numerals in each footer. Hint: leave this until your Intro section is complete. Page numbering should be the very last job.

Plan C.

Split your work into two separate documents. Use Roman page numbers in Doc 1, and Arabic in Doc 2.

Regards,

Ian.

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Answer 8

SaltSeaShark Author

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Apr 24, 2013 4:16 AM in response to Yellowbox

Thanks YB,

Page numbering should be the very last job.

That makes very good sense. Although, I would like to know where all the potential difficulties lie, and hopefully how to solve them before I get too close to deadline.

Meanwhile, having problems with changing font for all numbers - but thinking I should start new thread for that.

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Answer 9

Yellowbox

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Apr 24, 2013 4:34 AM in response to SaltSeaShark

Hi again SSS,

Potential difficulty. My mistake: you can't type a new page number into each footer in section 1. It is a footer and remains set for that section.

Plan D.

Leave the footer blank in Section 1 and type page numbers at the bottom of each page just above the footer. Then the page number is part of the text and won't change.

Plan E.

Insert section breaks between each page of your Intro. Let the footers carry through (check Page numbers continue from previous section, and Use previous headers and footers).

I think Plan C is best, unless you must have your work in one document.

changing font for all numbers - but thinking I should start new thread for that.

New thread sounds good.

Regards,

Ian.

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Answer 10

Jeff Shenk

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Apr 24, 2013 5:40 AM in response to Yellowbox

Ian,

I think you missed one step to combine two different formats in one document.

For example:

In Section 1, click in the footer

Select Insert > Auto Page Numbers

Select Show In: Section

Choose Position, Alignment and Format (Roman numerals) and whether to display on first page

Repeat for Section two, but choose Arabic format

In the Section tab of the Layout inspector set the starting number for each section, and probably for sections after Section 2, set to continue from previous section and maybe to use previous headers & footers (but not for Section 2, obviously).

Jeff

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Answer 11

Yellowbox

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Apr 24, 2013 5:53 AM in response to Jeff Shenk

Hi Jeff,

I tried that and it worked. Thanks for the lesson!

Regards,

Ian.

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Answer 12

Apr 24, 2013 7:49 AM in response to SaltSeaShark

Select the Inserted page number and right click to change its format.

Peter

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