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Mac Pro restore hd

Having huge problems restoring the Hd on a Mac Pro.


Started by verifying disk. It basically stopped part way through and said I had to restore hd from backup (1 to time machine hd with 16 gb free out of 982 gb used)


Tried restore. It hummed align for a few hours then said it could not continue and to start again! This was after saying it was going to Tahoe over 500 hours to complete.


Tried again. After selecting source for backup, it basically did nothing for over an hour and never did retina a restroom point ( which had eventually happened the first time). Cut power. Goes to same point as before and does nothing (spinning color wheel only)


Reboot and try a verify disk on time machine hd. It has been stuck there for hours saying it will be clone in 36 minutes.


So here we sit with a machine seemingly lost in the twilight zone with no progress of any sort on the horizon


What suggestions might you have for this one?


Thanks


Geoff

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), Matrox Triple Head To Go Display De

Posted on May 1, 2013 6:12 PM

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May 8, 2013 10:00 AM in response to TheWalkers

I am glad YOU are not "green" to heat and prod control! you really scared me there though for a minute... it does happen after these thread conversations that learn something (Mac Pro is sucking in dust and pet hair and sits in direct sunlight while the exhaust is being pulled back inside and recirculated... would not be first time).


So forgive me thinking it was a 'computer hutch' (I once put my G4 in one to help silence the awful loud fans and sound the thing made... and was what drove me into the arms of a quiet albeit hot Mac Pro!).


Yes, I just google and found one on ebay (AMazon had just the newest model) and it has a "zoom" when you hover over the label and could clearly see what ebay seller has (way over priced btw too, US$249 asking).


I have been using WD Green error free, but some people swear by them, others at them. I find they make great drives for TimeMachine.

May 8, 2013 10:10 AM in response to The hatter

... and I vacuum out the beast at least twice a year just because! Pull all the pullable's out and clean it up real pretty.


Fianlly got DW in place and purring away on the TM disk. Will see what it can do for me in a few hours I guess.


Oh yeah, my son is also a post prod editor using Mac Pro's all day do we both believe in clean, cool work environments


Guess I will go GREEN shopping when I can :-)

May 8, 2013 10:22 AM in response to TheWalkers

So you have some other Mac Pro that you have access to is good to know.


I was hoping there would be a Disk Warrior 5 with the full 64-bit mode support.


I do not use vacuum - read about 'em and ended up with the DataVac (sometimes want to move it somewhere safe to release all the dust into the room or area).


Metro Vacuum ED500 DataVac 500-Watt 0.75-HP

http://www.amazon.com/Metro-Vacuum-ED500-500-Watt-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/


Repairs Time Machine backup disks

Time Machine relies on a new directory structure called a directory hard link. DiskWarrior 4 version 4.1 and later repairs damaged directory hard links and can rescue a lost Time Machine backup.


http://alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/upgrade.html


May 8, 2013 10:40 AM in response to TheWalkers

How much memory = how much RAM


It has to work in system memory (you have 24GB?)


It will use the system boot drive for VM and how many pageouts and free space and showing in Activity Monitor? and free disk space left?


TechTool Pro 6 can work with low DISK SPACE and highly fragmented DIRECTORY


A DiscJockey Pro disk copy to another drive


A way to mount the drive at all and copy file, delete file, make room, copy next file... something I once did to get past some "cross-linked files" and recover manually. But that was not with TimeMachine.


Repairing a drive like this which is the only copy of some files...


I would email Alsoft and MicroMat

May 8, 2013 12:22 PM in response to TheWalkers

I said they sell 4GB set of 2x2GB $32 and you want 8x2GB (or more). Yes there are 2x4GB kits FBDIMMs but higher priced.


Penny wise etc and DW is good but not sure about good enough for this problem with TimeMachine volume you have. DW normally is #1 go to utility... except when the drive is full, directory is segmented.... DW wants to write out the directory as a single "file" and needs enough space.... which it cannot. I woudl think it would take a version 5.0 for new feature redesign like that.


How much free space is on the boot volume you used?

May 8, 2013 6:28 PM in response to The hatter

I've got a tedh at DW working on this and will here from him tomorrow.


When I open TM in a window I eventulally get directories down to the lowest level, it just might take several minutes of longer to dig them all out


TM is not opening or closing correctly at this time


My System partition has 180+ GB free and other partitions as you suggested and mostly empty at the moment


G

May 10, 2013 8:02 PM in response to TheWalkers

Cant get enough of a good thing, I'm BACK!


Got things pretty much straigthened out with the DW Tech and now have a rebuilt directoty that I am slowly copying to another drive


The problem I am running into is that a number of files are returning a requester saying I cannot copy because I am not authorized to copy XXX files. Some as I recall are '.localized" files and the like.


Any idea of a workaround to aurhotize me to move my files?


Thanks a bunch!

May 11, 2013 7:03 AM in response to TheWalkers

Glutten for more...?


Only data files right? any type in particular? some "files" are packages, have hidden files.


I would expect even with a new rebuild directory some files are not usable.


Did DW support have you use advanced option on "Rebuild" button to do a deep scaveng for files?


You're manually copying group of files at a time?

.... to a "recovery only" drive partition.... from which you then repair / rebuild .... and copy to a "good data" drive partition


I would delete files once you know you have copied and have a file in two new places.


You are inside a folder or folder structure where you can copy that type of file into?


Data Rescue 3 demo - worth looking at?

May 11, 2013 7:54 AM in response to The hatter

The Tech took over the machine and did everything from his end and I ended up with the second copy of the TM diredtroies basically amd now am trying to copy apps and data files.


All I know for sure is he clicked on the shield logo and entered a pasword to do more magic stuff that overrode the low memory issue and rebuilt the directories after 10-15 minutes. He had Terminal and Activity Monitor going but I don't pretend to know about all that I was seeing.


He cautiioned to copy over things to another drive in smaller batches so I am a bit concerned about this large Picture copy trick underway now. Time will tell.


I am coying what I can to an empty partition for now. However I am trying a trick to get around 'permissions' issues with my iPhoto library from these forums by copying all Pictures from TM copy to Pictures folder on current active drive. Will know if I am lucky late tongiht


Figure if I can copy what I can to an open partition, I can put them where they belong on the main drive, then once a get another drive, I can do a proper TM backup on the operative location.


There are a number of registered apps that I need to copy as well but clearly don't know where all the little bits (some hidden I am sure). Not sure if I would have the confirmation receipts for all of them.


Did get all the Document files copied over now on the 50 GB of image files. Next will be trying to recover the iMovie data.


The joys of it all and yes the TM drive has been confrimed as failing,


G

May 11, 2013 8:29 AM in response to TheWalkers

Remote magic!


His caution - and to copy small batches at a time - what I would do is to delete if possible (maybe can't)


I had trouble with my own attempt to use Tri-Backup 5 to copy the iPhoto Library as it would quit on its own with no warning no matter what (and I could copy sub-folders and such thru the program).


If you can get the Pictures folder, that at least gives you the source files, photos, but not of course changes, projects and albums you create.


I think you are doing all you really can do --- and consider yourself lucky and you got Alsoft to help as they did.


Apps really really need to be installed from master copies. The download installer DMG if you have those, and I just 'know' you are going to burn midnight oil burning any master copy to DVD or Blue-Ray and disk drives!


Some things probably could be cloud based. Adobe Master Suite no, but data, yes. I bought some online storage for photos and everything I do gets uploaded as I make changes. Documents - I do not have anywhere near 50GB. iTunes of course I can always redownload but I have those on DVD, disks, for most. iMovie might be a challenge.


My android tablet has a 64GB user SDHCX card (exFAT format) that can be swapped out and I have a couple of those so I even use my tablet's storage for a lot of important stuff (I'd like to see 128GB microSD cards next). Trouble is and one reason I keep Windows, is Windows I can mount and copy to/from microSD cards any way I want.


Paragon has HFSX and NTFS drivers so I can have full read/WRITE access from either platform to data on the others filesystem.


Building the next floor on top of the floor you are on until you have a complete skyscraper.

May 11, 2013 9:17 AM in response to The hatter

The main issue at the moment is the iPhoto library. I have several 1,000 images outside iPhoto for our website work and can get at them no problem. It is only the iPhoto (secret format?) file that hopefully will go across with the compelte Pictures folder copy. Time will tell


Guess I will have to check the doc files fo see if I can find registration info for some of the apps.


G

May 11, 2013 9:26 AM in response to TheWalkers

iPhoto Library is a package. Get Info: Show package contents.


I keep Pictures on one drive, and iPhoto Library on another drive.

Works well.


Just open the Library wherever it is and iPhoto will use that location.


So if you want and can, and might also be faster in terms of performance (is for me) and safer to have them not be on same drive.


OS X uses packages for applications, then started seeing that used for Pages and Numbers and iPhoto, when you look inside you have folders and sub-folder structure. Lots and lots of small files. I dont' know what its strength is. I didn't like seeing data format become packages but there had to be a reason. And weaknesses.


Can't save as and make default to be something else. Now I can't do a Save As instead I just had to Duplicate in Numbers, Pages and then Save to get the same results.


Proprietary format, yes, it seems so.

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