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  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (36,180 points)
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    May 2, 2013 12:02 PM (in response to UKenGB)

    You do not need to troubleshoot your network to determine the root cause of a networking problem.

     

    Great... hope your day job isn't in IT.

     

    We're not getting past this. Unless you consider being ignored from here on out getting past it.

  • ChrisJ4203 Level 7 Level 7 (26,570 points)
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    May 2, 2013 12:23 PM (in response to UKenGB)

    The reason I mentioned activation had to do with updating. You mention updating the iOS on the devices and in the end, that would require an activation. This support document http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3406 talks about using the iPhone without a wireless service plan, and I know the SIM does not have to be in the device to use it. Not sure about why the phones would connect to your network, however still not be able to access the Internet. That is as much as I have to contribute.

  • brentfromalresford Calculating status...
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    May 2, 2013 12:46 PM (in response to UKenGB)

    I can clearly see what you are getting at and why you are so irritated with the comments from kilted_Tim which have been far from helpful, technically flawed and he cannot even use correct grammar or the correct words to describe devices on your network (router instead of wireless access point).  I suspect that it is an IOS issue probably caused by the last update, but you need to find out if anyone else is having the same problem, but that might be a long shot, as most people will have SIM cards in their iPhones.

  • NJpsychout Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    May 2, 2013 5:26 PM (in response to UKenGB)

    I'm trying to do the same thing though not advanced with it as UKENGB is.

     

    But I agree with him--it doesn't sound like a router problem if MANY other devices ARE STILL  working on the same network, wired, wireless or whatever.

     

    And as far as garnering points goes, I can't speak for UKenGB but I have, in my limited use of this board, never read a post suggesting point rack up as a reason to post here. Isn't it to get help from other users who MAY have encountered similar situations?

     

    Just asking.

  • ChrisJ4203 Level 7 Level 7 (26,570 points)
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    May 2, 2013 5:29 PM (in response to UKenGB)

    I only suggest it because you mentioned you updated the devices to iOS 6.1.3. That would require the device to be reactivated. Did any of the material in the support document that I provided the link to give you any help?

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (36,180 points)
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    May 3, 2013 3:25 AM (in response to UKenGB)

    It was a network problem. What a shock...

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (36,180 points)
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    May 3, 2013 5:50 AM (in response to UKenGB)

    And as you've been told, that constitutes a poll or survey which is prohibited by the TOS.

     

    Apparently your reading comprehension skills need work as well.

  • ChrisJ4203 Level 7 Level 7 (26,570 points)
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    May 3, 2013 7:05 AM (in response to UKenGB)

    UKenGB wrote:

     

    In actual fact, an update does not require re-activation. Maybe it does if there is NO SIM, but there is a SIM in each of my iPhones, albeit, non-functioning SIMs. IOW, they cannot provide any sort of Carrier connection.

     

    In any case, my iPhones were not in need of activation, that was not the problem, but thanks for the suggestion.

    I beg to differ, many of the iOS updates require a reactivation of the device. The devices without the SIM would need one installed, even if it is a non-functioning SIM as you described in your other devices. With those installed they will complete, even though they cannot provide the carrier connection as you describe. It is mentioned in the support document that I provided you.

     

    I also reiterated that using an iPhone without a functioning SIM and even without a SIM installed is possible, and is explained by the support document for users to do it. I believe that actually addressed your original question.

     

    I'm pleased that you discovered the issue and it should provide archive information for any other person searching the forum if there are problems with connecting to the different frequencies in routers.

     

    Good Day.

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