7 Replies Latest reply: May 30, 2006 4:36 PM by Douglas McLaughlin
niteowl Level 2 Level 2 (385 points)
I'm thinking of buying a new MacIntel computer and running Quicken is an absolute necessity and Virex (7.2) a close second and I was wondering if anyone knows if they will run on it as neither is Universal.

Are there any applications that won't run on the Intel Duo chips?


It would be nice if there was a specific Forum for these kinds of questions.

PowerBook G4 Ti 15" (400-MHz), Mac OS X (10.4.6), 1GB RAM, 80MB HD, AE
  • -MacMini- Level 3 Level 3 (620 points)
    Quicken will run on the Intel mac mini under Rosetta, but it will be slower because it isn't universal...programs you can't use with the intel core mac mini are those that are Classic programs
  • Locutus01 Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
    Both Apps will run on the MacMini Intel. They will run a little slower then if they where ran on a MacMini PCC because of Rosetta. However I can't see Quicken running that slow, as for Virex; to be honest you don't need a virus program at this point in time.

    Maybe someone can comement on one, but as far as I know none of the virus programs have gone Universal and work correctly on a Intel Mac.

    All most all the apps for PPC will work for the Intel Duo chips, it will just run little slower because of Rosetta (which by the way is a memory hog so get least 1gig of RAM).

  • BGreg Level 6 Level 6 (17,500 points)
    Maybe someone can comement on one, but as far as
    I know none of the virus programs have gone
    Universal and work correctly on a Intel Mac.

    ClamXav is universal, and can be found at http://www.clamxav.com

    I use it on my PPC machines, and would recommend it. It can scan your email and downloads realtime, which is what I have it do. Most recently it picked up a phishing email before I opened my email.
  • mhunter Level 6 Level 6 (9,190 points)

    Not all PPC programs will run on Rosetta, but most will.

    Virtual PC is the only program I know of right off, that will not run on Intel Mac's. But, it's not needed as they can run Windows without Virtual PC.

    Also, any program that installs a control / icon in the Preference Panel is supposed to fail as well.

    Maybe someone can comement on one, but as far as
    I know none of the virus programs have gone
    Universal and work correctly on a Intel Mac.

    Norton Antivirus is Universal.
    http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/num.nsf/docid/2006012013550811?OpenDocument &src=hot∏=Norton%20AntiVirus%20for%20Macintosh&ver=10.0&csm=no&seg=hho&tpre=

    I prefer the free ClamXav.

    But, ClamXav is not as novice friendly as people are accustomed to. It is better as a limited scanner.

    It's e-mail integration is not as friendly, and can be quite damaging if you make a mistake.

    But, it's manual scanner, and folder watching scanner are great.

    I have it set to monitor everything I download to my desktop.

    With the reported problems, and less than friendly e-mail integration, I would not use it to scan incoming e-mail.

    For a free antivirus program, ClamXav is great. But, for those who want the ability to just install and forget it, you'll be better off with a commercial program.

    Many web-browser plug-ins are also not yet universal. So, you'll have to run Safari in PPC mode to use some plug-ins.

    You can read about that at:

    You can read about running programs in PPC mode at:

    While not complete, you can see a list of Universal Applications at:



    Hope this helps.
  • BGreg Level 6 Level 6 (17,500 points)
    It's e-mail integration is not as friendly

    For the Apple mail program, add a line to the folder scanner (ClamXav Sentry) for: users/user name/library/mail/pop-email name@site.nnn/INBOX.mbox/messages. Items in italics are unique to each person or system. Works just fine.
  • mhunter Level 6 Level 6 (9,190 points)
    Hello BGreg,

    Yes, that does work, but I was not referring to difficulty in setting it up.

    My concern is that the mail box (all your messages) are treated as a single file in this method of detection.

    So, when one message comes in with a virus, it will quarantine the entire mailbox and move it to the quarantine folder.

    So, then you have to go back and move it to the proper location, and weed through your messages to find the one with the virus manually.

    Or, you could have it not quarantine the file automatically. But, then there's little difference between that and just deleting the e-mail yourself.

    It's just not a fully automated process like people are accustomed to with other programs.

    Ideally, you would have just the single e-mail automatically quarantined and dealt with.

    If you still have to manually find it, then there is not much use.

    The other problem that I have seen is that if you fail to follow the steps precisely, you risk losing your entire mailbox (with all the e-mail in that box).

    So, with the risks in mind, I prefer to just handle mail manually.

    With OS 10.3, there was a script that could be used with ClamXav that would pass each in-coming message through the scanner. You would use the rules to tell it what to do with each message if a virus was found. So, you could individually delete messages with viruses.

    Something like that that handles each message individually would be preferable to a method like what is currently available. It just is not a good to have it move your entire mailbox when you are dealing with novice users.

    One misstep in the process, and a novice could lose all their e-mail messages.

    The ClamXav site does have a very useful discussion forum for addressing concerns and asking for help. So, you can probably get the assistance you need to fix things. But, it would be preferable to have mail handled on an individual basis, not a group basis.
  • Douglas McLaughlin Level 9 Level 9 (63,750 points)
    I'm using ClamXav on my MacBook as well.