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  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    antdude wrote:

     

    Pondini wrote:

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    If it's been a long while, there might be a directory problem with the backups;  you might want to repair them, per #A5 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

    It is just a tiny configuration text file in my home folder/directory. Also, this is an external USB2 HDD. I will try a disk utility to check on it since the HDD is several years old.

    Disk Utility said everything looked OK on both HFS and FAT32 partitions (please note that this is a 500 GB HDD splitted in half so its FAT32 partition can be used in Windows, Linux, etc.).

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8

    Since the Finder shows the file gone from all your backups, and Disk Utility says the TM partition is fine, it must just be some odd glitch in the TM Browser.

     

    A Restart should clear it up.

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Pondini wrote:

     

    Since the Finder shows the file gone from all your backups, and Disk Utility says the TM partition is fine, it must just be some odd glitch in the TM Browser.

     

    A Restart should clear it up.

    I already rebooted and turned off and on for both.

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8

    Weird.  I've never seen this reported before. 

     

    Does the "missing" file appear in multiple backups?  If so, any pattern (ie, from before or after a certain date)?

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8

    You do have just the one set of backups, right?  You're not making "rotating" backups, with multiple destinations specified on the TM preferences panel, are you?

     

    If so, you must delete from each set separately.

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Pondini wrote:

     

    Weird.  I've never seen this reported before. 

     

    Does the "missing" file appear in multiple backups?  If so, any pattern (ie, from before or after a certain date)?

    I checked the oldest backup, last week's, and a few days ago. None of them had it according to Finder. TM show them existing. Funny how I can right click to restore them (they do work), but cannot delete (probably already deleted in TM before earlier today).

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Pondini wrote:

     

    You do have just the one set of backups, right?  You're not making "rotating" backups, with multiple destinations specified on the TM preferences panel, are you?

     

    If so, you must delete from each set separately.

    Only one external HDD and two exclusions (e.g., FAT32 partition on that external HDD).

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8

    antdude wrote:

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    I checked the oldest backup, last week's, and a few days ago. None of them had it according to Finder. TM show them existing.

    Just to confirm, the TM browser shows the file for certain datestamps, but the Finder doesn't, for the same backup date & time?

     

    Message was edited by: Pondini

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Pondini wrote:

     

    antdude wrote:

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    I checked the oldest backup, last week's, and a few days ago. None of them had it according to Finder. TM show them existing.

    Just to confirm, the TM browser shows the file for certain datestamps, but the Finder doesn't, for the same backup date & time?

     

    Message was edited by: Pondini

    I see a pattern now. According Time Machine's browser's right side with days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view). I don't get it?

  • Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    Wrong -- see below.

  • Linc Davis Level 10 Level 10
    expertise.desktops
    Desktops

    According Time Machine's browser's right side with days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view).

     

    Now I understand. You're seeing local snapshots that still contain the data you deleted from the backup volume. That's completely normal.

     

    OS X Mountain Lion: About local snapshots

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Linc Davis wrote:

     

    You may be seeing stale Finder state data in the time-travel view. Does relaunching the Finder get rid of it?

    Isn't that what reboots and shutting off/on MacBook Pro does?

  • Pondini Level 8 Level 8

    Bingo! 

     

    The purple "tick marks" represent actual backups on an external HD, so they have indeed been deleted correctly.

     

    The white/gray ones represent Local Snapshots, made on laptops running Lion or later, and kept on your internal HD.  They're made whether the TM drive is available or not, so you have access to them when the TM drive isn't available.

     

    They'll be "thinned" to one per day after 24 hours, then deleted after a week.

     

    You can't delete them, or items inside them, individually, but if you turn Time Machine OFF, then back ON, they'll all be deleted.

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Linc Davis wrote:

     

    According Time Machine's browser's right side with days and purple and gray horizontal lines. Purple ones show the deleted backed up files missing (correct since I wanted that), but the gray ones are still there (should be deleted, but I can recover/view).

     

    Now I understand. You're seeing local snapshots that still contain the data you deleted from the backup volume. That's completely normal.

     

    OS X Mountain Lion: About local snapshots

    Uh... When I restore/viewing/etc those gray ones, it is from my MacBook Pro?

  • antdude Level 1 Level 1
    expertise.macosx
    Mac OS X

    Pondini wrote:

     

    Bingo! 

     

    The purple "tick marks" represent actual backups on an external HD, so they have indeed been deleted correctly.

     

    The white/gray ones represent Local Snapshots, made on laptops running Lion or later, and kept on your internal HD.  They're made whether the TM drive is available or not, so you have access to them when the TM drive isn't available.

     

    They'll be "thinned" to one per day after 24 hours, then deleted after a week.

     

    You can't delete them, or items inside them, individually, but if you turn Time Machine OFF, then back ON, they'll all be deleted.

    Interesting and SO confusing!!!! Is there a way to show only what is backed up on external HDD then? I don't want to see local snapshots. No wonder I am all confused and going crazy. :O