10 Replies Latest reply: May 17, 2013 7:30 AM by Csound1
Noodle-head Level 3 Level 3 (680 points)

Likely Apple will email me saying this is inappropriate. But I'll try out of shere frustration, and the hope that if the message is kept alive someone will hear it and consider change.

 

My subject title says it all.

I had to abandon so much and add so much anew, just to keep in pace with the transition from iDisk to iCloud.

Yet, time and again, I find the simplest of task either unavailable or so hidden as to be undiscoverable.

For example, my recent post about how to make a video file I created in QT available to a friend. Given that a 80 MB file is too large for easy email transfer, I assumed iCloud could do what either Dropbox does or what I used to be able to do with iDisk.

Not so.

 

I just don't understand the logic behind any of this, other than what seems to be a general assumption that everyone has mobile devices and could not care less about what is shared and what is not shared; further, that the general public is quite satisfied with narrow access via pre installed icons, and has no interest in customizing or seeking individual, original, creative avenues for making and making available just those files ready for sharing and just when and to whom they get shared.

 

I created something using Apple software and want to send it to a friend. Simple. No copywrite issues, and no world wide distribution via Facebook or otherwise.

 

Can't find a way to do that using iCloud.

Used to be easy using iDisk.

Is relatively easy going outside Apple and using Dropbox.

 

Is this where I am being shoved? Outside my 30 years long relationship and investment with Apple? To do what I have been able to do with Apple machines and software for so many years? And what I felt Windows PC's were more difficult or unable to do?

Is Apple pushing older long standing Mac advocates and users into some Elder Care home for disabled computer users?

 

Very disgruntled; once true advocate.


MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7)
  • 1. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    pvonk Level 6 Level 6 (13,685 points)

    You can't saw wood with a hammer!

     

    iCloud is not designed to be like the old iDisk or Dropbox.  If you need Dropbox, then use Dropbox.  iCloud's main service is to keep devices in sync with each other.  For me and most other users, that works very nicely.  But for the same reason that you can't host a web site or put a photo gallery in iCloud, you can't put files in iCloud for other users to access.  Only devices using the same icloud account can access data there.  (Well, there is one exception - shared photo stream.)

  • 2. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,460 points)

    iDisk was one of Mobile Me's services, one that is not available in iCloud. If iDisk was the sole reason for using Mobile Me I would agree with you, but it was not.

     

    There are so many alternatives (many superior) to iDisk that the only issue is choosing among them, I dislike Dropbox for their poor security and history of lying to the Justice Dept (when under investigation) but that still leaves huge choice available to you.

  • 3. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,720 points)

    Read up on what iCloud is capable of and isn't:

     

    iCloud: Backup and restore overview

     

    which includes this:

    You get unlimited free storage for:

    • Purchased music, movies, TV shows, apps, and books
    • Notes: Backup of purchased music is not available in all countries. Backups of purchased movies and TV shows are U.S. only. Previous purchases may not be restored if they are no longer in the iTunes Store, App Store, or iBookstore.Some previously purchased movies may not be available in iTunes in the Cloud. These movies will indicate that they are not available in iTunes in the Cloud on their product details page in the iTunes Store. Previous purchases may be unavailable if they have been refunded or are no longer available in the iTunes Store, App Store, or iBookstore.

    You get 5 GB of free iCloud storage for:

    • Photos and videos in the Camera Roll
    • Device settings (for example: Phone Favorites, Wallpaper, and Mail, Contacts, Calendar accounts)
    • App data
    • Home screen and app organization
    • Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
    • Ringtones
    • Visual Voicemails

     

    iCloud: Photo Stream FAQ

     

    iCloud: Photo Stream limits

     

    iCloud: System requirements

     

    AND iCloud is free whereas MobileMe wasn't.

     

    OT

  • 4. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    GeorgeInTheMountains Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thank you all. Made it much clearer for me. Though...too bad. I wonder why Apple decided to drop such a service? I was ok with paying $99 a year for what it provided. I suppose I stubbornly expected and wanted iCloud to include similar, even if above and beyond the free space.

    Thanks to all.

  • 5. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    GeorgeInTheMountains Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I want to mark this as answered. Used to be a link for that but I can't find it.

  • 6. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,460 points)

    Look the buttons marked solved, or helpful for a partial solution.

  • 7. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    ankhank Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    So how do I -stop- iCloud from insisting on starting itself up?

    I've disabled the thing repeatedly, and when I do, I find I have to reset my password for these forums.

    And then iCloud is back active again somehow.

     

    I don't have any other Apple devices, just several computers that I don't want automatically doing anything through iCloud.

     

    But I"ve had to reset the Apple password several times a week and it's always somehow iCloud-related

  • 8. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    Old Toad Level 10 Level 10 (115,720 points)

    Since you issue is different from the OP's problem you should start a new topic and include what feature of iCloud is starting up automaticallhy, what devices you using, system versions, etc.  With the info you've provided we can't tell what you're experiencing and on what device you're experiencing it.

  • 9. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    GeorgeInTheMountains Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Where? There are no buttons for "solved" or even "helpful." All I see any more is "Like."

    What happened?

  • 10. Re: iCloud threw the baby out with the bath water
    Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (35,460 points)

    GeorgeInTheMountains wrote:

     

    Where? There are no buttons for "solved" or even "helpful." All I see any more is "Like."

    What happened?

    Those buttons are only available to whoever originated the thread, AKA the OP.