jagged edges on logo after render

I've got a logo as a high res. eps file. I need to key that logo over a background. Simple...right? I've saved the logo as a png, psd, tiff...

When I import into FCP and place logo over the background...it looks great. After I render it, the edges of the logo/text look jagged. I've added the motion blur and also the de-interlace filter...doesn't help.

It sure seems like a simple solution.

Thanks

quad core 2.5 G5, Mac OS X (10.4.5), dual 1.8 macbook pro

Posted on May 31, 2006 6:40 AM

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May 31, 2006 7:57 AM in response to atlfcp

The shape of the logo is round, but it's the text that is jagged? Are they not on the same layer? Or is the text larger than the logo?
I assume you're not doing any resizing, right?
Are you looking at the jaggies on a computer monitor or an NTSC monitor?
Saving the logo as a PNG file should give nice clean edges. I'm not sure what's wrong here, but maybe we can figure it out.

bob

May 31, 2006 9:40 AM in response to Bob Vest2

Thanks for the reply Bob,

No resizing. NTSC monitor. The logo with text are on the same layer. What I ended up doing is saving it out as a pict. file. The jaggies went away, but I lost my transparent background...background is now white which is pretty boring but with deadlines...

What is interesting is when I placed the logo as a png. over a background in Final Cut it looked great. Then I rendered it and as soon as the render finished, the text did the saw tooth thing.

Jun 3, 2006 9:19 AM in response to atlfcp

Try this.

First, in FCP apply a Gaussian Blur filter to the logo clip, set between 7 and 10. I know it will look bad on the computer screen, but ignore that for now.

Second, set the "Y" (vertical) center position value in the Motion tab of the logo clip to an odd number, and not to zero or an even number. I know this sounds like witchcraft, but sometimes it works to prevent interlacing artifacts in curved line art. Also works with type.

Like I said, may sound crazy but try this combo of fixes and see if your problem goes away. This is a well-documented method stolen from several of the FCP tip sites.

Jun 4, 2006 7:28 AM in response to Jim Schafer

Well, the method you describe may work.
But in what I'm concerned with, this is quite strange :
If i render as an animation, the whole thing is just perfect (just like each image was done in Photoshop), including the logo.
Then I use this "perfect export" by opening it in QT, then exporting it again 100% size in an onother codec (let's say H264, 100% quality), then everything is still 100% perfect BUT the logo which seems to be a bad quality one added later on the whole video.
This problem occurs only on computer screen. Always good on TV. But still a problem when your target export is computer screen.
The logo in question is green. I wonder if ther is some kind of color pb in video. Maybe the background on which is the logo is imported is not "not enought contrasted"... I don't know...

Jun 4, 2006 4:39 PM in response to atlfcp

In my experience the issue is almost always related to coming from or going to square progressive pixels into rectangular interlaced pixels.

Nothing to do with color space in my experience.

I've gotten jaggies going from sq. pixel Photoshop graphics into NTSC video that look fine in FCP in a computer but look jagged after render on an analog monitor.

I've also taken type generated in FCP that looks perfect in analog video but has jaggies when I knock it down to a progressive square pixel H.264 movie for viewing on the desktop.

Strange as it sounds, this business of placing the origin of the graphic on an odd-numbered vertical pixel actually seems to work. I first read that in an article that is someplace in Larry Jordan's website. ( http://www.larryjordan.biz )

That and enough gaussian blurring in the interlaced video environment to overcome any jaggies problems with curved shapes drawn in side interlaced video frames.

That's what I know.

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