5 Replies Latest reply: May 19, 2013 1:00 PM by Mr. Luigi
Mr. Luigi Level 1 (10 points)

This question has been asked, but my situation is a bit different.  I have a 4 year old MacBook Pro.  My iPhone (4S), iPod Touch (4th gen), and iPad 3 are all associated with this computer.  I just bought a new Mac Mini and want to associate these three devices with the Mini and "abandon" the MBP (even though I will still be using it for other things).


I have already transferred ALL the content (Music, Podcasts, iTunes U, Movies, etc.) in my MBP's iTunes library onto my Mac Mini's iTunes library.  They are essentially mirror copies of each other.  I also subscribe to iTunes Match.  So ALL my music is accessible via the Cloud.  I have already turned on iTunes Match with the Mini and downloaded all the songs in my library to the Mini except a small number that I hardly ever play.  I left them in the Cloud.


Now, my semi-ignorant intuition says I should be able to create a backup of each iDevice "to my MBP" (not to iCloud) and then copy the backup and transfer it to my Mac Mini.  (How I do this I am not sure.  Transfer the backups to an external hard drive and then to my Mac Mini?)   Where are these backups on my MBP anyway?


Then I thought I could connect my iDevices to my Mac Mini and "Restore from Backup"  (The backup that I transfered from my MBP).  This way my iDevice would come out of this whole process looking just like it was before...more or less.  All my apps would be in the folders I created for them, e-mail accounts would be preserved, etc.


Or is there something even better...faster.  I mean, the two libraries are exactly the same.  It would be nice if I could just associate the iDevices with the new computer and not have to restore at all.


OK, I throw myself at the mercy of the court.  I don't dare touch these devices until I am sure I won't totally jank them all up.

Mac mini, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.3)
  • Allan Sampson Level 10 (123,395 points)

    You don't have to do anything - not if you transferred your iTunes library from your MacBook to the Mini and you have authorized the Mini with your iTunes account with iTunes and have iTunes Match enabled.


    If you chose to have the backup for each device stored locally on your computer's hard drive when syncing each device with iTunes, iTunes will create and update the backup for each device as the first step during the iTunes sync process. You can also manually update the backup for each device with iTunes.

  • Mr. Luigi Level 1 (10 points)

    OK Big Al,


    I'm going to give this a go on my iPod Touch first and see how it goes (not that I doubt you!).  But, you know what they say "poop happens."


    I'll let you know how it goes.


    Thanks for responding no matter what the outcome.


    Mr. L

  • Mr. Luigi Level 1 (10 points)

    @ Big Al


    OK, I clearly misunderstood you.  I am a moron.


    I have transferred my iTunes library to my Mac Mini

    I have authorized my Mini with my iTunes account

    I have iTunes Match enabled


    But when I connected my iPod Touch (and then tried my iPhone 4S) to my Mini via USB nothing happened except it recognized them as "cameras" and opened iPhoto to download the photos on my camera roll.  Nothing else happened.  They didn't appear as "Devices" on the left column of the iTunes screen.


    What am I missing/doing wrong?

  • Mr. Luigi Level 1 (10 points)

    I'm Back.


    With Big Al's help and some trial and error I have succeeded in transferring "ownership" of my 3 iDevices over to my new Mac Mini.  However, as I expected, some "Poop Happened."  However, it was not because of bad advice from the Big Boy.


    Here is a summary for those attempting this in the future.


    1.  I THOUGHT I did a complete recreation of my MBP's iTunes library on my Mac Mini.  Really.  I did.  I used Home Sharing between my MBP and my Mac Mini to import "everything" from the MBP's iTunes library to the Mac Mini.  In almost every respect, that method worked beautifully.  Highly recommended.  What I had forgot is there was one glitch.  It was with a collection of podcasts of Steve Jobs being interviewed by the folks from All Things Digital.  I believe there are 6 video podcasts and one .pdf in the series.  For some reason, there was a problem when I tried to import that particular podcast collection to my Mac Mini.  So, I just bagged the import and went to the iTunes store and download the podcasts and .pdf, fresh and new, from the store.  So, strictly speaking, my Mac Mini Library wasn't EXACTLY the same as my MBP's.


    2.  I then connected my iPod Touch 4G to my Mac MIni to start the process of coverting ownership of that iDevice to the Mini.  Unfortunately, when I was done, there was a problem.  It was that podcast series.  When I went to set up wireless syncing of the iPod Touch I noticed that BOTH my MBP and my Mac Mini were listed under Wireless syncing!  The MBP had podcasts under its name.  The Mini had all other types of iTunes media under its name.  I didn't even know this was possible.  But, I knew this was not good.  In fact, my iPod Touch would still try to connect with my MBP when I open iTunes on the MBP.  It would also connect to my Mac Mini.  This is not suppose to happen!


    3.  So, after some head scratching and messing around, with no luck at resolving the situation, I decided to restore the iPod Touch FROM BACKUP (while my iPod Touch was connected to my Mac Mini...of course).  I first made a full backup of the iPod Touch to my computer then fired away and let the process run its course.


    4.  SUCCESS!  The iPod Touch no longer had and remnants of its former life with the MBP.  Under Wireless Syncing only the Mac Mini now appeared.  I performed the procedure with my iPhone 4S and iPad 3 connected to my Mac Mini.  Totally successful also.  By that point it was 2:00 AM and time to go to bed.


    5.  I don't know if Big Al's advice would have worked if I had not messed with the podcast section of my iTunes library.  But, I suspect it probably would have.  So, my advice is...if you are going to do this, try at all costs to not change a thing when you recreate your iTunes library on your new machine.  Even if it's just a new copy of the same media.


    BTW, the restoring wasn't a total waste of time.  I had accumulated about 7 GB of "other" data on my iPad.  For those of you who are up on this issue, it can be a real problem as it robs your iDevice of its precious, limited memory.  After restoring from backup the "other" data on my iPad had dropped to about 1 GB.  I actually wasn't surprised that this happened as this is one of several workarounds folks have developed to deal with what appears to be a problem iOS 6 has with the management of "other" data.


    Bring on iOS 7!


    Oh!  I forgot.  One more piece of feedback.  Big Al's link also helped me get my iDevices to appear under "Devices" in the left column of the iTunes screen.  In my case, the suggestion from his link that worked was to shut down and restart my computer.